Question on CMP 3-Ton Break-down Lorry (Wrecker)

[Ilian Filipov]

Probably I'm not quite right but it looks to me that three of the quartet above are 4G2 bodies on SWB C60S and the one on the left below is body 5L1 on LWB F60L.

[Bob Carriere]

Thanks for the pictures John.

It does seems like both style of rear fairleads were used on wreckers..... I stand corrected.

Cheers

[Chris Preston]

Very Many Thanks John,

That's exactly what we're looking for - very helpful and much appreciated.

Cheers,

Chris, in Victoria (BC)

[cordenj]

Hi Chris,
To complete the set, here are some photos I took of the C60s Wrecker in the REME museum, formerly at Arborfield.

It has the same "underslung" hitch design as yours:

[Frantisek Nachlinger]

Few bad pictures of our Garwood Wrecker.. seems to be modified, too.

[Hendrik van Oorspronk]

As far as I know were the "long" chassis used before the short ones. A friend of me here has one with the short chassis and its serialnumber and DoD are later then mine.
As far as I think the short ones are all the BRKD 5 model and from one single contract.

Greetz Hendrik

[cordenj]

Originally Posted by Hendrik van Oorspronk

As far as I know were the "long" chassis used before the short ones. A friend of me here has one with the short chassis and its serialnumber and DoD are later then mine.
As far as I think the short ones are all the BRKD 5 model and from one single contract.

Greetz Hendrik

Evening Hendrik,
The Arborfield Wrecker with the "underslung" hitch was built in December 1943, while remember yours with the single roller and extended side brackets (also like mine) was February 1943, so it would seem that during 1943 the multiple rollers and "underslung" hitch was introduced.

Chris: what was the build date for your one in the Ashton Armoury?

[cordenj]

Originally Posted by Frantisek Nachlinger

Few bad pictures of our Garwood Wrecker.. seems to be modified, too.

Hi Frantisek,
That's an interesting modification.
It looks like the original hitch has been replaced with a post-war one that can be rotated.
Do you know the post-war history of your Wrecker?

[Frantisek Nachlinger]

Originally Posted by cordenj

Hi Frantisek,
That's an interesting modification.
It looks like the original hitch has been replaced with a post-war one that can be rotated.
Do you know the post-war history of your Wrecker?

My father bought it from Pilsner Urban Transport Company in late 1970's. Just overpainted the red paint with green to use it in movie industry. (So there's most probably original paint under those 2 layers) It still has a beechwood blocks between the springs and frame not to turn over when it was transporting heavy trolleycar railroad switches. They have over 3 tons each! So the hitch was probably modified in the UTC workshop? I do not know where the UTC got it from - most probably from UNRRA, I still don't have any informations that the Czech Independednt Armoured Brigade Group ever had any C60 Garwood wreckers. But it would be cool to find a CIABG marking under the red paint
Here are few oldschool pictures of my father's CMPs, Wrecker included
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4514

Frankie

[Hendrik van Oorspronk]

Originally Posted by Frantisek Nachlinger

Few bad pictures of our Garwood Wrecker.. seems to be modified, too.

I am collecting contract and serialnumbers of the wreckers, are the dashplates still there?

Hendrik

[Frantisek Nachlinger]

Originally Posted by Hendrik van Oorspronk

I am collecting contract and serialnumbers of the wreckers, are the dashplates still there?
Hendrik

I am pretty sure they are present, I will try to find a picture, if I won't find it I'll reply you a number as soon as I go to the garrage.
There is one more Garwood in Czech, do you have the number?
F

[Frantisek Nachlinger]

Originally Posted by Hendrik van Oorspronk

I am collecting contract and serialnumbers of the wreckers, are the dashplates still there?

Hendrik

Hendrik,
I have the plate photograph, but it's very poor, the numbers are:

C-60444-M(?)-RT
13
3844233736
PR3371901
LY 1702
APR 7 44

hope that the big one is sufficient, if you needed anything else, let me know ( for sure it'S a BRKD4 )

I have the dataplate on the crane superstructure, too...

Frankie