Carriers and 2" mortars

[B. Harris]

Some pics of interest...
Harris

[B. Harris]

One more of similar

[RichardT10829]

Excellent thanks guys. Is there a tube carrier for the projectiles ?

And do I need to make a basket like Lance's

[lssah2025]

Richard, mine does not have the bomb thrower on it, I do have the adapter plate and all the bits minus the cut-down Enfield, the basket I have actually holds the cardboard/Canadian bren boxes and some personal kit, I don't know if it was original to the vehicle or the previous owner added it. I think my bomb thrower will fit on the side armour plate without an issue. Also attached are pics from the previous owner with a modified 2 inch mortar on the wall. He put some rounds in the box for it, but again, don't know if it was 100% correct. You could put in the cardboard 2 inch mortar round carrier I think though, I will have to check the next time I am back in the states.

[charlie fitton]

I ran across a ref. to an early war, improvised mount made from wood at one time..mounted on the engine cover..

[Michael R.]

You may find four different mounts and brackets for the 2" mortar series found on MK-I/MK-I*, MK-II/MK-II*, T16 and Windsor carriers. The 2" mortar does not appear to have been mounted on the Canadian production tank hunter or factory produced 3" mortar carriers, each using the MK-I* hull. The 2" mortar brackets were designed to fit different mortar base plates. For example, the MK-8 and MK-8* 2" mortar base for airborne and infantry being dissimilar to the MK-2* and MK-7 2" mortar base.

The MK-I* Universal Carrier vehicle series introduced a Canadian produced mount fitted to the top plate of the engine cover. That also required reworking the firing rest into a collapsible position. The CAMT as posted by Jordan, as well as the Canadian Army Modification Bulletin L-1 of 15 Nov 43 refer in varying details. The factory produced mount for the MK-I* is CTL-739-SA, the modified firing rest assembly is CTL-1562-A.

The MK-II/MK-II* and converted MK-I/MK-I* series Universal carriers had two different style factory produced brackets attached to the gunner front left upper protection plate. The late 1944/early 1945 MK-II* bracket was also factory mounted using a composite belting material sandwiched between the armour and an additional plate on the exterior of the hull, beneath the clearance lamp. Similar factory brackets are observed in both models of the Windsor carrier as well as the first model T16.

Pics to follow...

[B. Harris]

Michael R.....

The detail is amazing. Excellent recovered details!
Cheers,
Harris

[Michael R.]

The upgraded MK-I/MK-I* fitted a British produced bracket fixed to the vehicle. The factory produced MK-II* (Canadian) carrier first model bracket is similar to the British made bracket. On the left, an early 1944 bracket at the Ford factory. (disregard the fact this is a welded hull Canadian production carrier) On the right, a British made bracket fitted with the later style mounting base on a British carrier.

The Mark 7 2" mortar, along with Viola Davis during war time assembly of the mortar at the elevator company.

The early vehicle bracket did not have a supporting plate on the front of the gunner left upper protection plate. Later production shows the plate in place, with the composite material between the hull and plate. The last series of three images show an original paint February, 1944 MK-II* without the plate, a factory image of an August, 1944 MK-II* with the plate, and Andrew D.'s (iirc) October, 1944 MK-II* with the plate.