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Old 25-11-17, 15:02
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Thanks everyone for your replies. The reason I am confident the base colour is Brown No.2 is first, that the truck has its original factory paint as shown by the W/T on the cab door and second, that this HUW lacks the radiator overflow can making it post 1942 and also is the three body door style instead of having the right body door replaced by the spare tire recess which happened in the spring of 1944. These details put it smartly within range for wearing a coat of brown.

The SCC14 Black is described by Stammer as equivalent to Revell (model paint) R9 which cross references to Tamiya XF63 German Grey. I had a look at my local hobby shop and see it is really a dark grey, easily duplicated by cutting a little lightener in Tremclad flat black as Jordan did.
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Old 25-11-17, 18:19
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Old 25-11-17, 19:19
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Not sure if you have seen this one before. Not trying to thread jack this but Im curious to find out what the desk came from. It is a very odd design.
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Old 25-11-17, 20:23
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Not sure if you have seen this one before. Not trying to thread jack this but Im curious to find out what the desk came from. It is a very odd design.
I'm not sure what that table is from. Certainly not HUW or HUP if it's even from a truck.

What is interesting is how a slightly different colour setting can turn khaki/black into brown/dark brown. About the only thing that you can use as a standard to set the colour in these two photographs is the battledress blouse. But even these change colour in real life depending on whether they are inside or outside in the sunlight.
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Old 26-11-17, 10:11
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I would say that it is black and personally speaking I think black looks right, model paints are ok but sometimes can be very misleading.

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Old 26-11-17, 10:36
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I'm not sure what that table is from. Certainly not HUW or HUP if it's even from a truck.

What is interesting is how a slightly different colour setting can turn khaki/black into brown/dark brown. About the only thing that you can use as a standard to set the colour in these two photographs is the battledress blouse. But even these change colour in real life depending on whether they are inside or outside in the sunlight.
Also different manufactures and material was used on Battle Dress. I have about 10 sets and no two are the same colour, from slight shade variations to very dark and very light.
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Old 26-11-17, 13:40
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John Marchant in the UK owned a Canadian HUW that he had purchased after the war. His vehicle had seen service with the Toronto Scottish in NWE and was still pretty much in its original camouflage. Here is an image of the HUW after a run to Normandy in 1984.

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Old 26-11-17, 14:30
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John Marchant in the UK owned a Canadian HUW that he had purchased after the war. His vehicle had seen service with the Toronto Scottish in NWE and was still pretty much in its original camouflage. Here is an image of the HUW after a run to Normandy in 1984.

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Nice pic Ed, there's a lot of helpful detail in it.

A couple of thoughts: it is an early HUW as indicated by the rad overflow can and would most likely have been factory No.3 khaki, as it appears to be. It has been repainted as the CZ number, WT and bridge class sign are just slightly off size and location. I follows that these were applied after the whole truck got a spruce up paint job. The pattern of the cam looks like it was meant to duplicate the original (I hope!!).

Also it's interesting to hear it served with the Toronto Scottish. They were the machine gun battalion for the Canadian 2nd Infantry Division. Up to now I've been under the impression HUW's were more often issued to signals and artillery regiments and this opens up many more marking options. What I think may have happened is that towards the end of the war HUW's were being replaced by better, roomier wireless trucks. The surplus HUW's were then issued to alternate users as general purpose vans. One example is a HUW used by a chaplain and now possibly this Toronto Scottish one.
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Old 26-11-17, 20:04
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The SCC14 Black is described by Stammer as equivalent to Revell (model paint) R9 which cross references to Tamiya XF63 German Grey. I had a look at my local hobby shop and see it is really a dark grey, easily duplicated by cutting a little lightener in Tremclad flat black as Jordan did.
If you want to convert a model paint to a more universally usable formula, use this Revell table to concert to RAL numbers: https://www.revell.com/support/paint-guide.html

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Old 27-11-17, 10:15
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A lot of people use current British Standard BS381c No 499 Service Brown as the modern substitute for SCC2, without recourse to paint matching to a half inch square colour chip or fleck of paint.

I used 499 on this restoration

Incidentally SCC paints were not named. There was just the number and vague descriptions like “the colour of coffee with milk”

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Old 28-11-17, 02:53
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One more, this time the same HUW from the front and colourized with a more grey black.
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