1941 Ford V8 C11ADF Staff Car (11A-79)

[BCA]

Of interest in a Tom Mack Auction on Dec. 2, 2017 in Birmingham Alabama is a C11AD Ford Station Wagon. Looks restored but I am not familiar with the details of this car. It does have US-style tail lights in the photos. Part of a larger car collection liquidation. This has to be a rare vehicle!

[Brian Gough]

Here is a link to photos of the C11AD Ford Station Wagon

https://tommackclassics.com/50-1941-...y-staff-wagon/:


Brian

[Frank v R]

this car was on the block before a few years ago out of CA if I remember, 100K last time,

[rob love]

Really? 100K? Was that the asking price or the selling price? Or have you added one too many zeros on there.

Certainly a nice piece. Would be nice to see it come back to Canada.

[Jordan Baker]

I believe this was the same car. From back in 2009.

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...789#post121789

[rob love]

Impressive selling price. It will be interesting to see what it gets this time around.

[BCA]

Has anyone seen a posted selling price for this C11AD that was sold at this auction? I have had not luck.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by BCA

Has anyone seen a posted selling price for this C11AD that was sold at this auction? I have had not luck.

No, sorry. The site does state that all cars in this auction were sold.

Originally Posted by Brian Gough

Here is a link to photos of the C11AD Ford Station Wagon
https://tommackclassics.com/50-1941-...y-staff-wagon/:

For future reference:

OLD CAR HEAVEN AUCTION VEHICLE
ALL VEHICLES WERE SOLD IN DECEMBER 2ND AUCTION.

#50-1941 Ford Military Staff Wagon

• Model C11A
• Army Green
• Very rare “Woody” conversion Wagon, built in Canada for the British Military.
• Right hand drive
• Restored
• Actual production numbers are unknown, but considered to be extremely rare.

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[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Jordan Baker

I believe this was the same car. From back in 2009.

Indeed, it must be the same. It looks it is fitted with 16" wheels, or do I see things wrong?



Plus the last three pictures:

#50-1941 Ford Military Staff Wagon

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[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Indeed, it must be the same. It looks it is fitted with 16" wheels, or do I see things wrong?

16 inch wheels would surely be correct? It was the C11ADF that had the 13 inch wheels and the heavier axles.

[Ian McCallum]

Just seen this post for the first time. It certainly appears to be the same vehicle that was sold about 2009 I think. If you look at the three quarter photo I have posted you can see it is fitted with the F8 rear axle, so assume semi-elliptical springs, which would make it ADF transmission configuration. Extended rear wheel arches also correct but it is should be on 900x13's although it appears to be on 16 inch wheels which have a strange centre. Interestingly one of the photos from the original sale collection shows the dash which is not fitted with the three auxiliary switches for Dash, Convoy and tail blackout which was standard on both the C11ADF and C11AS models? Is it genuine?

For clarification the C11AS (Special) was a military specification based on the 1941 C11A Ford Deluxe Station Wagon. (torque tube, standard axle and transverse spring) 16 inch wheels and was a seven seater. The C11ADF was fitted with F8 axle, prop shaft and semi-elliptical springs but still on standard car three speed box and column change and fitted with 900x13's.

Information I have indicates 235 C11AS's were produced, which included a few 42 model, and 633 C11ADF's , all shipped overseas. I am currently in the final stages of refurbishing a C11AS here in the UK.

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[Ian McCallum]

Regarding the American rear lights mentioned, I would assume these have been fitted to provide stop/tail and indicator in a 'military' configuration.

Originally both models were fitted with a single early pattern rubber tail light on each side. I followed this original configuration but had to fit two each side to give all required road legal lighting.

Just noticed the auction vehicle is fitted with the wrong rear bumper. The C11AS was fitted with a bumper of the same profile as the front, which was to offer protection for the spare wheel and carrier. The C11ADF however was fitted with a straight bumper as the spare wheel was stowed in the rear body space. Tow /tie down rings were only fitted to the AS model.

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