M151A2 furnace filters

[maple_leaf_eh]

When I look at furnace filter CFTO add-ons for my western '74 Pattern, which of the fol is the correct one?

Large spaces in the expanded metal or small spaces?

[rob love]

The one on the right. The larger one would not stop branches that could damage the alternator.



If you really need, I could dig out the CFTO which specifies the size of expanded metal.

[Ed Storey]

Here are a couple of photographs showing the guard in use.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Very loose interpretations for installation too! Spaces horizontal and spaces vertical. Bar stock inwards and bar stock outside.

74-09745 is only 20 off from what I intend to mark mine as. CFR 09725 was a favourite ride back in my time....

[markcos]

There both right Take ur pick
I have seen 3 different types at the scrap yards
Some nicely made some not so
My view is they look cheap on a mutt tho

[rob love]

Personally, I don't think these grills look that bad, and they were certainly better than having to change radiators every time the operators decided to push a little bush. There was another modification for a full metal guard that mounted on the front bumper. Now that was ugleeee.

[Eric B]

Hey Terry

The second photo looks familiar.

Rob is it possible to get the CFTO for the grill?

Thanks
Eric

[rob love]

Here is the CFTO

[rob love]

And here are some snippets from mod CF19, which was for a very ugly full size grill. Most of the Shilo M151A2s had this one. They tended to cause damage to the fenders when they got pushed back from pushing bush.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Eric, I should hope that one looked familiar. And, as always Rob's library and generosity knows no bounds.

[rob love]

I suspect that the 09744 truck shown was the LETE truck. Note the mirrors were mounted to the fenders, however with only one arm. The eventual modification used two arms. I found those rattled so bad you couldn't use the mirrors, so I would add a third arm. Any farmer will tell you you always need three points of contact for stability. Personally, I always liked the mirrors by the windshield.

[Ed Storey]

I can confirm that M151A2 09744 was a LETE vehicle, it was disposed of in May 1989. It may be this vehicle which I photographed on display in the Carp Diefenbunker Museum in October 2015.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Hmmm? Time to ask the Curator about the collection of vehicles at the Bunker. About 5 yrs ago, I inspected a very clean M151 in the entrance of the long tunnel. I was told by Jason Ginn it has an indifferent record and is likely ex-US. I didn't take any pictures.

[Ed Storey]

All I need is the sn from the data plate to confirm.

[Eric B]

Hello

The M151A2 at the Diefenbunker is CFR 74-09723, SN 45109 , It was sold out of Montreal.

Thanks for the info Rob. Any chance of getting the missing pages for the second grill style? CF 19 Please

Ed is that CFR 74-09186, SN 43736 sold out of Chilliwack with the licence plate bracket on the windshield, converted from Electronics vehicle for VIP?

I have been following up from Clive's original CFR list with photos. Still working on M151 in Canadian Service book for Service Publications.

There was 1 Line M151A2 at Valcartier, no photos of it found yet.

Thanks
Eric

[Ed Storey]

Thanks Eric, the M151A2 with the plate (actually a very nice brass plaque) attached to the windscreen was the vehicle for the CO of 5 RGC in Valcartier.

ED

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by Eric B

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The M151A2 at the Diefenbunker is CFR 74-09723, SN 45109 , It was sold out of Montreal.

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Eric

Cough and gulp! I think 723 was a Sher H vehicle. The other was 725 as I recall. If you have the record, look to see if it was previously at UIC 5007.

TW

[Matthew P]

I have a 1967 M151A1 project. I like this grill modification. Mine might receive it regardless of authenticity for my particular vehicle. Just seems like a good idea.

My grill is already set up for the cold weather cowl blanket. So fitting up a frame with holes that line up with the turn fasteners to make it removable should be doable.

Matt

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by Matthew P

I have a 1967 M151A1 project. I like this grill modification. Mine might receive it regardless of authenticity for my particular vehicle. Just seems like a good idea.

My grill is already set up for the cold weather cowl blanket. So fitting up a frame with holes that line up with the turn fasteners to make it removable should be doable.

Matt

I have to make a five hour road trip on a three to four week cycle. About an hour off-line is a surplus dealer where I am told there are leftover Canadian M151A2 parts. When the stars align and the snow clears, I will make a detour to go poke around. If I find a stash, I will make a deal with the dealer, and you can have one.

[Eric B]

Hello TW

I could be wrong, but I think the militia vehicles were not shown attached to the units. All of the Black Watch vehicles I had checked in the past just came back to CFB Montreal. My 30th Field trailer came back to CFB Ottawa. Other than the markings on it nothing in the file indicates 30th Field.

Or this just could be for areas that had a base.

We use to keep 3 vehicles in our compound and the rest were on the tarmac at St Hubert. Took my driver training at St Hubert/ Farnham and the streets of Montreal. Nothing like learning how to drive standard stopping and starting on a steep hill. (Guy Street)

If you need my grill cover to get one made up, I plan to go and do some work on it.

Your photos show the rollover kit was added after it was painted camouflage.

Thanks
Eric

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Eric B

Hello TW

I could be wrong, but I think the militia vehicles were not shown attached to the units. All of the Black Watch vehicles I had checked in the past just came back to CFB Montreal. My 30th Field trailer came back to CFB Ottawa. Other than the markings on it nothing in the file indicates 30th Field.

Or this just could be for areas that had a base.

Pretty much all reserve units fell under a support base, and the vehicles would have been shown against the base supply major equipment section. For instance, any units in and around Winnipeg, right out to Thunder Bay and as far North as Flin Flon, would show against CFB Winnipeg, which was part of Air Command. However, a unit like 2PPCLI, which was in Winnipeg, would show it's holdings.

[Matthew P]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

I have to make a five hour road trip on a three to four week cycle. About an hour off-line is a surplus dealer where I am told there are leftover Canadian M151A2 parts. When the stars align and the snow clears, I will make a detour to go poke around. If I find a stash, I will make a deal with the dealer, and you can have one.

Oh hey thanks! That's awesome. I really appreciate it. Sorry for the delayed response. I usually visit MLU related to WW2 matters so I don't usually check the Post-War forum.

Matt