FAT bridge plate

[Harlé Sylvain]

Hello
I try to finish my FAT tractor , After looking on WWII pictures ,I found lots of différents bridge plate weights : 9/, /6 , 5/9 , 9/5 and 7 Ton
Whitch could be the right one?

Thank you!
Sylvain

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Harle,

According to https://www.canadiansoldiers.com/veh...emarkings.htm:

Tractor, Field Artillery Chev/Ford CGT/FGT FAT, 3-ton, 4X4, 101 wb Class 6

HTH,
Hanno

[Niels V]

Hi Sylvain
But then if you look at the different historic photos, and see any other markings, they will be correct.
In the historical photos I have, the plates are: 9/ (Cab 12), 7 (Morris MkII), 6 (Cab 11), 9/6 (Cab 13), /6 (Cab 13).
I was planing to put 9/ or 9/6 on mine.

Cheers Niels

[rob love]

The Artillery tractors are listed as 6 in my manuals, and the 25 or 17 pdrs are listed as a 3. Most likely the 9 (especially on the class sign of 9/6) is the combined rating of truck and gun. Two limbers together are also listed as a 3 (forming section ammunition vehicle).

[David Herbert]

I agree that 9/6 is correct but it is not hard to find photos with other (wrong) markings. As Rob says the '9' is the combined weight of tractor and gun, '6' is just the tractor.

David

[Harlé Sylvain]

Hello
Thank you all ,
I have paint my plate today , I have done the plate with a steel roller , and paint the number by hand .
Next step the artillery sign

regards
Sylvain

[Niels V]

Looks very nice, but not be a kill joy but the original plate is just a flat disk without the raised edge

[Ilian Filipov]

Originally Posted by Niels V

Looks very nice, but not be a kill joy but the original plate is just a flat disk without the raised edge

Why, most of them have edge on period pictures?

[David Herbert]

As I understand it Australian ones were flat disks but British ones certainly always had the pressed edge as in post #6. unless they were painted directly onto the vehicle itself. I have photos of Canadian vehicles with the pressed edge plates and also with flat plates, particularly if the plate is in the RH headlight position of a 13 cab. Also with no bridge plate or painted ones so there seems to be scope for personal choice !

David

[Davistine Liddle]

Originally Posted by Harlé Sylvain

Hello
I try to finish my FAT tractor , After looking on WWII pictures ,I found lots of différents bridge plate weights : 9/, /6 , 5/9 , 9/5 and 7 Ton
Whitch could be the right one?

Thank you!
Sylvain

Hope this will help.Is this a F15A Indian Pattern ?? .My friend sent this to me his friend's father was in the Indian Army..The photograph was taken somewhere in India during WW2..

[Ilian Filipov]

While on this, I have a question.
Here are only 2 pictures of a series captioned "Singapore 1941". Apparently the same place and the same time, to my eye also the tractors, limbers and guns are the same. Why this 2-ton difference in the bridge class then?

[Niels V]

Here is my plate for my CGT.
It got it off a danish C60L Cab 13 that had its headlights moved forward.
It was Maurice that spotted it in my pile of parts, instantly saying that’s a bridge plate, and when we a scratched a little in the paint the Top Front stamping showed up.
The two center holes are a perfect match for the holes in the Cab 11/12 wings.

But if the rimmed version are visible in war time pictures then that is also correct.
I don’t think a workshop during the war would have given any thought about fitting a rimmed or a flat.

[Owen Evans]

Just my thoughts, but weren't the Canadian bridging plates smaller (7-1/2" diameter) than the British ones (9" diameter)?

[Niels V]

Mine is 21cm in diameter

[Alex van de Wetering]

Mine is 21cm in diameter

I see a lot of small diameter flat plates on early Monkey face CMP's, but also on C15TA's here in Holland in 1945.....larger flat ones on Cab 13's, but also some with the fancy plate with ridge. Canadian Jeeps often show a large diameter plate with ridge from what I have seen......and the occasional jeep with a very large custom mate plate for red cross marking on an ambulance jeep.
I have no idea if there is difference between British or Canadian vehicles....or if it's more a matter of different suppliers(?)

Niels, thanks for posting those pictures and measurement; interesting to see an original plate!

I try to finish my FAT tractor ,

Sylvain, are you planning to have it done for D-day 75? Would be awesome to see your truck there!

[Owen Evans]

The attached is what I meant. If you compare the bridging plate diameter to the diameter of the headlamp lens (7 inch). As Alex says, often seen on the earlier (11/12 cab) CMP trucks.

Owen.

[Harry Moon]

I have examples of both and I would hazard that the edged ones were common on the headlight socket and the flat ones when it was attached seperatly from the headlight blank..

[Hanno Spoelstra]

The ridged plates are British, the flat plates are Canadian.

They doubled up as blanking off plates for the headlight buckets. They had holes to fit them in the headlight buckets and holes to fit them elsewhere when a second headlight was required. Compare with Niels’ example.

Of course when war progressed things got mixed up and troops used whatever was available from stores.

H.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Davistine Liddle

Hope this will help.Is this a F15A Indian Pattern ?? .My friend sent this to me his friend's father was in the Indian Army..The photograph was taken somewhere in India during WW2..

Davistine, that is a very nice photo of a so-called Indian Pattern FAT!
Check this thread for more info: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...=&threadid=922

Thanks,
Hanno

[Davistine Liddle]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Davistine, that is a very nice photo of a so-called Indian Pattern FAT!
Check this thread for more info: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...=&threadid=922

Thanks,
Hanno

Thank you, Hanno will check it...If i get more these type of photographs I will post... though i have WC 51/52 pics of 65 Pakistan war but not from WW