Quebec Transport Ministry + MV owners

[rob love]

I believe that all the provinces as well as the US states have reciprocal agreements re vehicles on the road. I think, for the most part, that if your vehicles is registered for full road use in your province, then it is fine to travel through any other province. I have read that in the US, some states have outright blocked on-road registration for HMMWVs, yet guys who are out of state can drive their HMMWVs through the states that don't allow on-road registration.



Hopefully your calls will lead to some common sense at some point.



Re the safety of the ex-military vehicles, I have owned and driven my military vehicles for over 40 years, and the one accident that happened was in no way my fault, and my passenger and myself both walked away, despite the other vehicle being a lot heavier. And with about 5 minutes work, the Jeep drove the rest of the trip. Autopac wrote the vehicle off and let me buy it back for not much money. Basically, I got paid $1100 (in 1985 dollars) and I was able to push the body back using a couple blocks of wood and a screw jack, and had to replace the fender and hood. I think it was under an hours work....easiest thousand bucks I ever made.

[Dave D.]

Is my HMV welcome in Quebec?

I'm hoping to get an answer fairly soon before all the leaves freeze and blow off the trees.

Here's a little snippet of an email for the tourism minister. I'll follow up with phone calls after Monday and let them talk among themselves over the labour day long weekend.

Caroline Proulx,
http://www.assnat.qc.ca/en/deputes/p...ml?appelant=MC


For the Public Record.



I am a member of the Military Vehicle Preservation Association (MVPA), the Alberta Aviation Museum and President of the Canadian Civil Defence Museum Association writing to you in a personal capacity at this time.

It is important I bring your attention to SAAQ restrictions recently imposed on various types of vehicles. The restrictions limit certain types of vehicles on roads posted under 70-kph.
https://www.journaldequebec.com/2019...KZkgLNcyZW9A-U

"""""""The Société de l 'assurance automobile du Québec has decided to limit the use of these vehicles on public roads where the speed limit is equal to or less than 70 km / h. They will be able to cross at a right angle a road where the limit is higher, but they will now be banned from highways, as well as on provincial roads where the limit is 90 km / h.""""""""""

The selection of vehicles included in these restrictions isn't clear. I began to inquire about traveling to Quebec to visit family in one of my Historic Military or Civilian Vehicles.

My friend and neighbour, Nick Bulgar was killed in Afghanistan in protection of Brig.-Gen. Jonathan Vance ten years ago. Since that time I have freely traveled in Historical Military tribute vehicles and participated in Historical Military Vehicle events. My personal collection includes Civilian type vehicles that were purchased by the Canadian Military and painted green.

The organizations listed above preserve, restore and display Canadian and Continental history. The MVPA has worked tirelessly since the mid 1970's to ensure safety and public education were primary roles among its membership.

Today I contacted SAAQ for clarification and Mileana was very helpful. They did not have a list of vehicles that were prohibited or restricted but sent me along to the folks that would 1-819-722-3048. This is the department that needs to enforce the traffic rules. This was the first time they had heard of the Quebec provincial restriction and suggested I talk to Service Quebec at 1-888-355-0511. Carol was unaware of any restrictions to travelers and visitors in Quebec and suggested I talk to the Quebec Minister of Transport, 418-643-6903.

Since this "restriction" was received in writing to registered vehicle owners and became effective on August 22nd of 2019, I was certain other departments would have known about it. After speaking with Sophia with transport Quebec it isn't clear if I'm welcome in Quebec as a visitor.

I have a grand selection of vehicles to choose from including:

1956 GMC 6x6 that served in Wainwright for 3 decades on Emergency Measures Organization standby in the event of a National Emergency.

1953 GMC 6x6 from Penhold Base that served as a cargo truck, transporting goods and Canadian Military Members in training.

1954 GMC 6x6 Shop Van. This vehicle was available to the Canadian Reserves in Yellowknife for decades and could have been a work shop or even a command center for communications.

1966 GMC Coach Bus. This Bus was purchased new by Calgary Transit and was later adapted as a fire department bus to house victims of fire. It currently performs at Airshows from Edmonton to Red Deer Alberta, on highways, doing the speed limit.

1951 Chevy Suburban. The Suburban was purchased by the Canadian Military as a civilian vehicle and painted green. This was a cold war car driven around Alberta since 1951. It was purchased through auction from Surplus Canada over 40 years ago and has remained in the family since that time. It's role was light cargo and service member transport.

Other vehicles at my disposal for travel include units that were auctioned by Canada GC surplus to the general population for the good of the greater public. The LSVW, the Iltis built by Bombardier and many other styles of very reliable Vehicles appear to be a part of a restriction list. The MVPA has a great number of videos available online of the various vehicles we have operated across this continent and around the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oZvPqNZxKg

Can you please tell if I am welcome in Quebec in my Historical Military Vehicle?

[Luc Perreault]

Hi guys,

I'm also from Québec, as you all know I'm restoring a M113A2 since 7 years now, it got registered as a working vehicle by the SAAQ 2 years ago, with the new rules I'm beeing pulled out of the road because of the mecanical inspection needed by the "C" plate. As you also all know It's still in my driveway as the project is far from to be finish and ready but I don't want to lose what I've already got as license plate with all the paperwork I've gone true. I'm alone in all that story M113A2 no very common here.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Text of my question to the Minister.

"I have a permanent address in Ontario and a temporary address in Quebec. I also operate historic military vehicles registered in Ontario. Periodically I drive in the Gatineau area.

From what I read on the internet, military vehicles will be severely restricted for operation on Quebec's roads in the near future. How does this effect me, and my Ontario registered vehicles?"

Terry

[M38CDNBill]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

Text of my question to the Minister.

"I have a permanent address in Ontario and a temporary address in Quebec. I also operate historic military vehicles registered in Ontario. Periodically I drive in the Gatineau area.

From what I read on the internet, military vehicles will be severely restricted for operation on Quebec's roads in the near future. How does this effect me, and my Ontario registered vehicles?"

Terry

Hi Terry,

Accurate questions that need to be asked In the same way, can I drive my HMV in Ontario with a C Plate?

Cheers

[rob love]

Originally Posted by M38CDNBill

Hi Terry,

Accurate questions that need to be asked In the same way, can I drive my HMV in Ontario with a C Plate?

Cheers

I would suggest that if the SAAQ is also your insurance provider, and they have restricted these vehicles to roadways with max speeds of 70 kph, that your insurance might be at risk if you were on such a roadway, had an accident, and a claim was made, no matter which state or province you were travelling in.

[Dave D.]

This is harder than it should be. They put a bunch of real sweet ladies on as front-line operators and their French accents are so distracting its hard to focus. They start off in French but they all speak English.

I called the Quebec Tourism Ministers office to find out which vehicles I can visit in. I reminded them of my email and they will continue to help look into this.

http://www.assnat.qc.ca/en/deputes/p...ordonnees.html
1-418-528-8063

Tourism suggested I call the Alliance, ......what a sweet word when spoken by Lilyane over at the Ministers office, alliance.

The folks over here at https://alliancetouristique.com/en/contact-us/ had the best music when you're sitting on hold. The information from Guylan suggested that she watched the news and the "legislation" was targeted at private owners of Military Vehicles. I don't need to write that down twice.

The official comment from the office is that they can't help me with my specific questions at this time, but stay tuned.


""""""""The Alliance de l’industrie touristique du Québec works closely with the tourism community to ensure that Quebec remains a major and competitive destination. Questions? Comments? Requests? We will be happy to answer you!

You can also check the Team page to contact a specific person."""""""""

Again, this toll free number is the contact provided by the Department of the Minister of Tourism Quebec.

Am I welcome to Quebec in my HMV?

1-877-686-8358