A Light Recovery Trailer from Downunder

[Sam Scholz]

Photo upload test. Thanks Hanno!

LRT recovery 10 2019.jpg LRT front quarter view. 10 2019.JPG

Now, how is that? It worked great!!!
No mucking around with a third party host, and they are permanent.
Bargain!!

Sam.

[Sam Scholz]

Time for more pictures. Ignore the grain bin.

The front dolly assembly. The drive shaft is for the floor auger in the grain bin.

LRT front dolly 10 2019.JPG


The brake application equipment is in place!

LRT brake cylinder and chambers 10 2019.JPG


But the trailer has been grossly overloaded, and along with incorrect offset wheels, it has bent the 4 stub axles. One so badly that someone has removed the backing plate with all its' attachments with an oxy cutter. I need that lot.

LRT Bent axle problems 10 2019.JPG


First major job is to remove the rusty grain bin, which will be done in a way to liberate lots of useful steel.


Enjoy.
Sam.

[Gordon Yeo]

Sam

I followed your 969 restoration and wondered what you would entertain us with when it was done. Question answered, welcome to MLU.

Gord

[Sam Scholz]

Hi Gord,

Thank you for the kind sentiment. I sometimes wonder about the 'lurkers' who populate the views count!

Unfortunately, this thread will be slow at the start, as the LRT is 2 projects and 2 major rallies down the list. But I probably won't be able to resist doing bits and pieces on it.
I have already found a possible source of 18" rims and have a lead for tires and some rear body jacks that may do the job.
I need pictures/manuals/info on this type of trailer in Australia, who can help?

Have a nice day.
Sam.

[rob love]

I have one of these 7-1/2 ton trailers that was Canadian built. The tires and rims are the standard 16" CMP type. I bought mine thinking it would be a neat way to take the Bren carrier to displays. Once I had it, I discovered you would need a class one tractor trailer license along with air brake endorsement (and annual safeties) to take it out of the yard.

[Sam Scholz]

Wow! That sounds difficult!
I am sometimes surprised at the wide differences in different countries regarding the on-road use of our toys.

As I possess (in Australia) a national HC (Heavy Combination = semi-trailer/truck+dog>12t{IIRC}), I am able to use the 969/LRT combo once road registered. Very fortunately, I am able to club/historic/concessional register it with the brakes as they were when new.
It won't require annual inspections (COI), but does require annual registration fees which are a fraction of the non-concessional rates.

The rims on these Oz trailers were an odd 6 stud 18" split rim. Only recently has 18" tyres become available in Australia, albeit few and far between. Some Asian buses are using them, I'm told. This lack of tyres rendered many trailers unusable, or as in my case, adaptions were made. That is why I am on the hunt for some 18" split rims. One width is to suit 7.50 tyres and one is to suit 10.50/11.00 tyres.

Sam.

[Danny Devers]

Looks like a good project.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Sam Scholz

Photo upload test. Thanks Hanno!
Now, how is that? It worked great!!!
No mucking around with a third party host, and they are permanent.
Bargain!!

Sam, my pleasure, glad you like it

Great trailer you have there, apart from a bit of overloading it survived quite well!

Hanno

[Sam Scholz]

Just a quick update.
I have now shod the LRT with all zero off-set rims.
Looks much better now.

LRT as at 11 2019.JPG

Enjoy.
Sam.

[Sam Scholz]

Hi fellow MV tragics,

I've been playing with wheels. Managed to get some 7.50 x 18 tyres in good condition, so I have been cleaning up some rims and fitting them up. The original size tyre is 10.50 x 18 and is only available (in Australia) in an agricultural tyre which has limited road speed and a very poor wear rate on hard surfaces. So the 7.50 x 18's are going to have to do for now. The 16 ply tyres will go on the rear axles and the 14 ply will go on the front wheels.

So, after disassembling the wheels I purchased, I removed the tube/liner and cleaned them and re-assembled them. The picture below shows the fitting of the liner to the tyre following the fitting of the tube.

LRT Remove liner 18 inch rim 12 2019.JPG


The next problem which I did not anticipate was the mis-alignment of the studs. These I "massaged" with a large soft-faced hammer.

LRT 18 inch rim studs alignment 12 2019.JPG



Then drop the tyre onto the rim inner followed with the rim outer. . . .

LRT 18 inch rim fit outer rim to tyre 12 2019.JPG



. . . . and then the nuts which had been chased with a 1/2" UNF tap. I was a bit surprised as I expected BSF from a Commonwealth country!!!

LRT 18 inch rim nut fitment 12 2019.JPG



Finished them with a torque wrench set to 60ft/lb. I got the setting from a generic torque chart that gives torques for each size for coarse and fine threads.

LRT 18 inch rim nut fitment torqueing to 60flb 12 2019.JPG



And then I could fit three rims to the LRT more-or-less permanently. I am seeking another 3 or 4 18" 6 stud rims to complete the LRT in 7.50 x 18 wheels.

That is all for now. I wish for you and yours a happy Christmas and prosperous and peaceful 2020.

Enjoy.
Sam.

[Sam Scholz]

Good morning all,

Well, what memorable times we live in.

My overall plans have changed quite a bit recently, for obvious reasons.
As BTTT2020 has become BTTT2021, I have 16 months to do what I previously had 4 months to do.

This has opened up the possibility for taking the LRT to the MJCQ Swap meet at Caboolture in October, 7 months time. Only time will tell.

So, with the pressure off, I collected the LRT and brought it home.

I fitted the last of the 7.50x18 wheels, and loaded and strapped down the ramps. Man, they are heavy. I'll weigh one sometime and report back. Suffice to say it was Dennis on the crowbar and winch assistance.

LRT Dennis positioning ramp a 3 2020.JPG LRT Dennis positioning ramp e 3 2020.JPG


As I had not yet replaced the axles after the trip to Corowa, The Glorifier needed to be towed up the wet grassy slope out of the paddock and up to the road. But once on the road, everything went well. We stopped to check all was well on the 15km trip home.

LRT moving stop to check the load 3 2020.JPG

It seemed to travel very well, but I sure noticed the weight (41/2ton-ish), having to drive it like a well loaded truck. It is beyond me how these trailers, loaded with a 4 1/2ton Carrier were towed with a 3ton Chev CMP!?!

Anyway, it is home now and I feel like I actually own it now.

I have acquired a wheel chock as seen in the youtube video linked above, thanks Dave M . More on that later.

Have a nice weekend, BUT stay at home!
(Good excuse to get some restoration/maintenance jobs done.)

Sam.

[Sam Scholz]

Hello all,

I have recently found the time and energy to make a sort-of return to the LRT.

The first job is to straighten the very bent stub axles mounted in the rear bogie rocker assembly. The bend can be seen here in the gap between the axle spacers.

LRT bent axle 10 2023.JPG


The axle carrys a seal carrier, then a spacer, the backing plate and lastly a large spacer plate. These just slid off, a little too easily I fear. The remains of the brake backing plate can be seen, it has been oxy-cut off probably due to the bent axle. It is held in place with six 5/8" UNF bolts and has a spacer behind it, which can also be see.

LRT removing the bearing seal carrier.JPG


To straighten the axles, I had long ago intended to use brute force in the form of a "porta-power" which I bought at a swap meet cheaply as it needed seals replaced. Having fixed it a year ago, I tested it and managed 27 tons pressure, so I figured that would be enough. I also have a fairly heavy "H" beam that I have used repeatedly to straighten stuff for many years and have never even come close to bending it. But I would also need to constrain the outer end of the axle while applying pressure at the inner end. To avoid damaging the axle end, I manufactured a collar designed to go on the end of the axle with a neat fit and hold it in place with the original wheel bearing nut.

LRT Manufacturing a adaptor collar to straighten the axles. 10 2023.JPG

LRT Manufactured adaptor collar to straighten the axles. 10 2023.JPG


And here it is in place. As it is not long enough to carry 2 wraps of the chain, I found a neat-ish longer collar to go over it to get the length needed.

LRT Adaptor collar fitted to the axle. 10 2023.JPG


So far, so good.
Enjoy.
Sam, downunder.

[Sam Scholz]

Continuing the axle straightening, here is the setup described in the previous post.

LRT Set up to straighten the axles. 10 2023.JPG


One axle was also slightly bent forwards, dunno how that happened. So I could jack it from the rocker.

LRT Side straightening the axle. 10 2023.JPG


One question was how to know when the axle was straight, or straight enough. An engineer I know suggested the method in the picture below, however I ran into a problem I have seen before. That is that the whole assembly is so battle-weary that there is not anywhere straight enough to take accurate measurements from!!!
So, while this method is quite accurate, I couldn't make any sense out of it due to the imperfections in the axle. I ended up using a combination of a straight edge and eye.

LRT Attempt to measure the straighted the axle. 10 2023.JPG


The first axle I attacked was the worse one. I often do it that way so that they get easier as I do each one. The last two hardly took an afternoon!
And here is the finished job. Part of the preparation was disassembling all the brakes, which is the next part of this story.

LRT All 4 axles straightened a 10 2023.JPG


Time for a sit down and a nice cup of tea.
Have a nice day.
Sam.