War Department 16” divided rim: British and Canadian manufacture

[Richard Farrant]

Just to clarify the designation of these rims, known generally as a WD Divided Rim, here are some scans from LV6/MT14 Vocab showing specification details.
Note, FB/R means Flat Base Rim

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Mike and Hanno

You have raised a very interesting distinction that it would do us all well to remember. Particularly when we are looking for a tire shop to mount or dismount or mount our CMP tires. We should all be using the term Divided Rim with explanation they are two halves that bolt together in the middle.

In searching these two terms on line found a letter from OSHA (US Health and Safety) saying they were different. That Divided Rims were OK to work on with normal safety precautions.

Just something to stick in the back of our minds.

Cheers Phil

[Mike Cecil]

Interesting distinctions. The War Office 1966 driver training manual distinguishes the two types as 'divided type wheel' and 'three piece wide base rim' in the diagrams, then has an each way bet in the text: 'such wheels split into two or three parts to allow for replacement of tyre or tube'.

Looking more closely at the CMP manuals and parts lists, the Ford MBF1 uses the term split rim with the drawing of the wheel, but not in the text, and in both the Chev and Ford parts lists, the wheels are described as 'split' for the various sizes.

But neither the Chev MBC1 or C2 maintenance manuals use the term. All these manuals (MBF1 and MBC1&2) describe the wheel rims in the text as two piece.

Clear as mud, eh?

Mike

[Lynn Eades]

For those that don't recognise it, the diagram in Hanno's post#13 is of a WC Dodge rim (3/4 and 1 1/2 ton)

[David Herbert]

It seems strange that in Richard's post LV6/MT14 description that the PCD of the wheel stud holes is given in mm (and doesn't represent a sensible inch size) when everything those wheels fit were designed in inches.

David

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by David Herbert

It seems strange that in Richard's post LV6/MT14 description that the PCD of the wheel stud holes is given in mm (and doesn't represent a sensible inch size) when everything those wheels fit were designed in inches.

Hi David,
I agree that is strange as the Vocab is dated 1951. Looking at the book again it appears that only the 8 and 10 stud wheels have PCD in mm. Maybe this was a standard stud pattern used pre-war by overseas manufacturers?
Something else to investigate! I know some foreign vehicles went through WD trials in the 1930's, maybe this is something picked up from their evaluations.

regards, Richard

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Richard Farrant

I agree that is strange as the Vocab is dated 1951. Looking at the book again it appears that only the 8 and 10 stud wheels have PCD in mm. Maybe this was a standard stud pattern used pre-war by overseas manufacturers?
Something else to investigate! I know some foreign vehicles went through WD trials in the 1930's, maybe this is something picked up from their evaluations.

Note that the 275mm PCD is incorrect.

For anyone considering replacement rims, the Wheel Stud PCD is 8 on 10 1/2", or 266.7mm.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Excellent Richard, so Divided Rim it is!

Originally Posted by Richard Farrant

Just to clarify the designation of these rims, known generally as a WD Divided Rim, here are some scans from LV6/MT14 Vocab showing specification details.
Note, FB/R means Flat Base Rim