WS 19 in a Mk2 carrier

[Petr Brezina]

Thanks a lot Chris!

Originally Posted by Chris Suslowicz

The bars on the carrier floor have a cone at the rear (which will engage with a hole in the edge of the board - probably metal edged for protection), and the hole at the front is probably tapped for a suitable screw or bolt to hold the board in place. See if it has a BSF thread?

It seems that its just pin hole, no thread there Im affraid.
Never seen any picture or drawing of the counterpart, so hence my questions.
Kind Regards Petr

[Petr Brezina]

Just came across this interesting drawing in Chilwell which I overlooked before.
This support for wireless set is intended to be for AOP Mk.III but again something completely different
It has extra support (41) bolted to the engine rail (?) and some strange type of the carrier which I never seen before. There are obviously common rubber shock absorbers underneath but the shape of the carrier looks odd.
Confused again

[Chris Suslowicz]

Hi Petr,

I think that's a view of the support for the left hand mounting of the front wireless position.

If you take out the seat pan, then you only have the right-hand mounting bar for the radio/charging set table. There must be a corresponding left-hand mounting bar (with rear-facing cone at the front and bolt hole at the rear to match the one on the right hand side, and I think that drawing is a head-on view of the bracket that supports it.

The two mounting bars then support a tray (probably steel angle with holes at the rear to match up with the cones and plates to bolt to the holes at the front of the tray/well of the carrier) which will have either table mounts for the WS19 (and a terminal block for the 12V supply) or a frame and loops/clamps to retain the charging set. The trays will be identical in size so they can be swapped for WS19 at front/Charging Set at rear or the reverse.

I'll find a piece of plywood or chipboard and see if I can make a mock-up of the tray and table clamps with the carrier and set (etc) on top so you can see what I think it should look like.

Chris.

[Petr Brezina]

Hi Chris,
yes thats correct, AOP doesnt have folding seats so this supporting bracket is a must here. On UC wireless set carrier is supposed to lay on the lowered folding seat.
What surprised me is that mounting bar on the drawing is definitely not the same as on my carrier and also shape of the WS carrier looks odd. I would say its not No.21/22/23/25 - any of these. Perhaps again something special? What do you think?

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by Petr Brezina

Hi Chris,
yes thats correct, AOP doesnt have folding seats so this supporting bracket is a must here. On UC wireless set carrier is supposed to lay on the lowered folding seat.
What surprised me is that mounting bar on the drawing is definitely not the same as on my carrier and also shape of the WS carrier looks odd. I would say its not No.21/22/23/25 - any of these. Perhaps again something special? What do you think?

I think the drawing is only supposed to refer to the support bracket (the set carrier is a "this is a quick sketch of what goes on top but I don't have the details and you don't need them yet" - indicated by the broken ". _ . _ ." line used for that part of the drawing).

I suspect it's a permanently-fitted Carrier No.21 as the AOP Carrier is a single purpose vehicle and there's no reason to have the set removable for use as a ground station.

Best regards,
Chris. (Still not convinced about the single mounting bolt and "rest it on the seat pan" idea for your carrier. It seems a bit insecure to me - especially for cross-country use.)

[Petr Brezina]

Thanks Chris, thats very useful discussion.
You can be right about the sketch, true is that we still dont have any drawing with the carrier and WS mounted in the UC.
Regarding the folding seat - there is a welded plate coming from the engine cover which supports seat in down position, you can even bolt seat to it (mine is missing hole in it, but should be there - now I believe to know why is this that hole there for - no such hole on the gunners side). So I believe that it could be very rigid and sturdy support.
Im obviously missing something WS carrier is locked in on the outer edge of the seat.

[stephen crowhurst]

This is the way my rear seat is set up for the mounting of the radio. There is a Dzus fixing in the corner. Hope this helps.