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Old 24-08-21, 23:35
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Your A is the tool box with the kneeling pad CTL 780 A. I have never seen that other cover other than that pic in the manual. I expect they didn't last long in service life.
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Old 25-08-21, 05:00
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The B pic john Bizal reproduced some of them from my example and maybe he might still have some left.
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Old 25-08-21, 05:16
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Here is a drawing I did, not the greatest but it might help.
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Old 25-08-21, 05:30
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Your A is the tool box with the kneeling pad CTL 780 A. I have never seen that other cover other than that pic in the manual. I expect they didn't last long in service life.
Back when we were stripping parts and armour off carriers in Northern Ontario, we found several had the covers. Even the half a hull that was in the gravelpit at the edge of town had the cover. I believe one of those covers will be the one Dave has and John copied. Seems to me some or most of the carriers that were buried in the beach near Portage also had them.

John's copies had a small error on them where the cover would bolt to the floor to the right of the driver. It needs to be stepped to go over the small bellcrank plate if I recall. I discussed it with John and he mentioned that the area from the one he copied was a bit rusted there and it was hard to get the exact detail. It was easy to correct.
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Old 25-08-21, 11:49
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A couple of pictures.
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Old 26-08-21, 03:30
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Your A is the tool box with the kneeling pad CTL 780 A. I have never seen that other cover other than that pic in the manual. I expect they didn't last long in service life.
In the (1942 ?) Canadian “A” series Memorandum for Universal Carriers, units are instructed to remove the steering and brake controls cover, and dispose.

IMHO that was an excellent decision.
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Old 26-08-21, 14:12
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In the (1942 ?) Canadian “A” series Memorandum for Universal Carriers, units are instructed to remove the steering and brake controls cover, and dispose.

IMHO that was an excellent decision.
Thankyou Michael R. I didn't sleep last night worrying that my cover was missing.

so if the directive to remove the cover was issued in 1942, did they ever bother to fit them after that?

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Old 26-08-21, 17:26
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Thankyou Michael R. I didn't sleep last night worrying that my cover was missing.
so if the directive to remove the cover was issued in 1942, did they ever bother to fit them after that?
Ron
Hi-ya Ron!

This was a distinctive document in that the part was to be disposed of, not returned to stores. For example, the removal of the Wireless NO. 11 set base that was factory installed on the MK-I* (Canadian) universal carrier was to be returned to stores.

Not perpetuated.

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Old 26-08-21, 19:42
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Thanks again Michael. It follows then that mine and Israel's MK2's would never have had them fitted. Ron
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Old 27-08-21, 13:48
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Default Today we continued the work of restoring our Bern

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Old 28-08-21, 00:11
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Israel, there is a cut out piece on the left side to allow for the left side bell crank. There are two strips welled to the bottom that are tapped so that the bolts coming up through the floor can screw into. (5/16" (8mm) thick and cross ways) There is also a fibre block that two spare spark plugs screw into.
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Old 28-08-21, 01:18
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so if the directive to remove the cover was issued in 1942, did they ever bother to fit them after that?

Ron
Good question. I think the 11 set aerial base was still being installed on factory UC Mk.1's well into 1943. That said, I'm now not going to worry about fabricating that cover. I think it would make seating one's back end in the driver's seat that much harder.
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Old 03-09-21, 15:33
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Default Tool Box Measurements/Dimention

Lynn, do you have Measurements of the box?
A, B, C, Dimention

Thanks, Israel
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Old 04-09-21, 13:01
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Hi. Width (A) = 386. B = 386-50 =336. C (front to back)= 339.
From the back of the box (at C) length forward is 107. From there forward The recess is 122mm. the height of the base is 113 not including the lid.
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Old 04-09-21, 21:30
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Hi. Width (A) = 386. B = 386-50 =336. C (front to back)= 339.
From the back of the box (at C) length forward is 107. From there forward The recess is 122mm. the height of the base is 113 not including the lid.
Lynn
Many thanks for your coprating and sharing information.
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Old 26-01-22, 19:38
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Just bumping this thread so I don’t lose this gold.
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Old 15-01-23, 15:22
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Default Few more steps forward in Bren restoring

We have taken a few more steps forward in Bren restoring
Construction of the fuel tanks, painting and installation of the fuel tanks, including the accompanying parts.
Restoration of a front headlight, which was built according to the pictures in the book and in the pictures.

What remains is to connect the fuel pipes including the intake pipe with the internal filter of the tank.
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