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Old 22-01-22, 00:57
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here a pic with black unifom and not coverhall i think
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Hi,
here is some old stiching patch on the shoulder
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Definitely there were black armoured corps coveralls, and your pic in front of that beast of an armoured car sure looks like black battledress for the same reason. I can't confirm, maybe somebody else can.

The pics of your battledress sure looks as if the internal cotton pockets were died instead of the whole tunic made from black wool. I also see the CWA stamp on the collar. This is not the C/|\ acceptance stamp. It was basically a sold surplus stamp which might suggest a post war die job for whatever reason. Or a WW2 armoured corps/POW one sold surplus? I guess that might depend on if you can determine if the stamp was pre or post die job.

Contact Ed Storey, he's an expert on this sort of thing.

One last comment. The stitching does indicate some shoulder title was there. But....if this is a period correct battledress for armoured corps use there is a problem. The black would have been a very early war thing well before they used sewn on shoulder titles. Later in the war the black battledress (if such a thing existed) would have been abandoned and titles sewn on khaki battledress. So basically, a black battledress and sewn on titles are historically mismatched.
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The picture of the armoured car is the one the Hamilton Civil Guard had commissioned by Hamilton Bridge in 1940. The uniforms they are wearing, although close, we’re not battledress but based off of battledress and were a very dark blue.

I suspect the example you have was not manufactured that way but dyed after the fact for the possible reasons as stated by others.
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hi,
here is you zoom they don't have coverhall
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here is you zoom they don't have coverhall
OK Jordan, what do you make of this photo? The uniforms on the guys in the back do look black, but is it shadow? Has this pic been 'enhanced'? It dates from the UK in 1942/43 at which point, if black battledress for the armoured corps was a thing initially, would have been dispensed with by then. Maybe those boys just need some corporal to order them to the unit laundry?
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OK Jordan, what do you make of this photo? The uniforms on the guys in the back do look black, but is it shadow? Has this pic been 'enhanced'? It dates from the UK in 1942/43 at which point, if black battledress for the armoured corps was a thing initially, would have been dispensed with by then. Maybe those boys just need some corporal to order them to the unit laundry?

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https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Royal_Ca...Armoured_Corps
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I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I'm just saying I've seen very little evidence of it. I'd love to be proven wrong and discover that black battledress was in fact used in the armoured corps.
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