Armoured Carrier, Wheeled - Indian Pattern

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

From the article "India's Ford Wheeled Carriers" in Wheels & Tracks issue 42, we learn that various Marks of Armoured Carrier, Wheeled, Indian Pattern were based on the following chassis:

C011QRF:
- Mark II: originally with GM banjo-type axles and 9.00-16 tyres
- Mark IIA: when quantity production got underway Ford split type axles and 10.50-16 tyres were installed
- Mark IIB

C191QRF: wider axles (78") with 6" front steering ends, 15" diameter brake drums and brake booster, heavier springs, hydraulic clutch actuation, 10.50-20 RF tyres
- Mark IIC

Note: the Armoured Carrier, Wheeled, NZ Pattern was fitted on the C191QRF chassis as well

C291QR: rearranged driver’s position with centrally mounted near-vertical driver’s position
- Mark IV

Legend:
C - Canadian design;
0 - 1940 model year; 1 – 1941 model year; 2 – 1942 model year
1 - engine type; intention was to fit all Canadian Ford Special Pattern MV’s with the 85-bhp engine, hence the “1”. The 95-bhp engine was finally standardized but he “1” stuck until the models were changed for 1941 and the figure became “9” as it should have been.
1 - wheelbase (101");
Q - four-wheel drive;
R - rear mounted engine;
F – right hand drive.

Spare parts list for the 4x4 rear engine chassis. Note the lack of the “F” in the designation. (Via Les Jackson.)




Two more documents (via William Spence):

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Cross posting from Another Indian Pattern odd job: "C291QH 4x4 FAT for Royal Engineers" with three updated photos:

The Armoured Carrier, Wheeled, Indian Pattern Mk IV was based on the following chassis:

C291QR: rearranged driver’s position with centrally mounted near-vertical driver’s position

Legend:
C - Canadian design;
2 – 1942 model year
9 - 95-bhp engine
1 - wheelbase (101");
Q - four-wheel drive;
R - rear mounted engine.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Three more pictures of this vehicle in service with the Netherlands army in Indonesia (Dutch National Archives)

[Mike Cecil]

The lower image shows a carrier mounting a Japanese 13-mm Model 93 machine gun. Calibre was actually 13.2-mm (0.52 inch). Had a 30 round magazine. Fired Ball, AP or Tracer. Also issued in a dual or triple mount. If I remember correctly, the butt has a kink in it to offset it to one side, I think the left, so that the operator can see past the action & magazine to align with the offset front sight.

Interesting that the Dutch picked up Japanese equipment and put it to good use: there would have been plenty of Japanese weapons and ammunition available.

Mike

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Thanks for IDing the gun Mike.

It surely looked Japanese to me but firearms are not my forte.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

I came across this picture in the Dutch Army photo archive....no idea if it has been posted on the forum before, but better safe than sorry.

source: http://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/nl...d/pantserwagen

Dutch East Indies 1947.

Found the updated link to this photo:

Objectnummer: 2002-413-1
Titel: Verblijf en optreden van Stoottroepen Infanterie IV (voorheen 5(9) RS) in Nederlands-Indië.
Militairen van de 2e Compagnie in een Armoured Carrier Wheeled (Indian Pattern) Mk IV tijdens een konvooitransport van Medan naar Belawan.
Datering 1947-01

https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/f...6-9b9cdf5c2ff3

[Hanno Spoelstra]

And one more in use with the Netherlands East Indies Army:

Objectnummer: 2002-250-7
Titel: Verblijf en optreden van het 4e Bataljon Regiment Stoottroepen in Nederlands-Indië. Militairen en voertuigen stellen zich op in de Chinese wijk voor een parade.
Datering: 1949-11-07


https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/f...0-e83140ffc86e

[Ed Storey]

Here is a manual associated with this vehicle.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Here's a survivor in the Defense Services Museum, Naypyidaw, Myanmar/Burma. They have an Indian Pattern Armoured Truck, too.







Source: "Naypyidaw is the new capital of Myanmar which is around 5 hours ride from Yangon, the country's old capital."
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...0542504&type=3

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Sent in by Aaron Smith:

“One I found on Facebook again of an in service carrier with the Burmese /Myanmar army 1950’s”

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Via Ed Kraft: "The first Indepence Day of Pakistan, August 14, 1947. The Royal Air Force Police men with a pair of Armoured Carrier, Wheeled, Indian Pattern MkIV vehicles patrol the streets of Murree town to maintain the public order."

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Mike Cecil

The lower image shows a carrier mounting a Japanese 13-mm Model 93 machine gun. Calibre was actually 13.2-mm (0.52 inch). Had a 30 round magazine. Fired Ball, AP or Tracer. Also issued in a dual or triple mount. If I remember correctly, the butt has a kink in it to offset it to one side, I think the left, so that the operator can see past the action & magazine to align with the offset front sight.

Interesting that the Dutch picked up Japanese equipment and put it to good use: there would have been plenty of Japanese weapons and ammunition available.

Here is another photo of Wheeled Armoured Carrier 35-273 sporting the Japanese Model 93 machine gun:


https://beeldbank.nimh.nl/foto-s/det...3-29925d04aa65

[Hanno Spoelstra]

More photos of a Wheeled Armoured Carrier in Netherlands Army service in the Netherlands East-Indies, ca. 1946.


Source: http://hdl.handle.net/10648/5cc6fac7...a-e36d3becf2c8 | http://hdl.handle.net/10648/d15f9aae...5-2db9e348bd49

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

There are two Wheeled Carriers, both of which have the typical Indian Army census numbers of which the /|\ has been supplanted by a Dutch flag. They are following a Universal Carrier and what may be a Humfox leading the column.

These photos show Dr. C.P.M. Romme, a Dutch politician (in the light shirt) sitting on a Wheeled Armoured Carrier, part of a column on the "death road" from Medan to Belawan, Indonesia.
Apparently there was not a high risk of attacks on that day, otherwise Romme would have travelled under armour.
Date: 2 February 1947





Source: http://hdl.handle.net/10648/8e515100...f-c6c68ae1fe61 | http://hdl.handle.net/10648/96adc277...b-a9e7744049c1 | http://hdl.handle.net/10648/38b89ede...0-08127ab354c3