1939 CMP? on Ebay

[cletrac (RIP)]

I looked at his other items on ebay and it's interesting to note that most of them don't get a single bid.
He says the Humber is in the final stages of restoration but it doesn't look like he's started on it yet. I guess maybe all my acquisitions are in the final stages of restoration too if I use his standards.

[cliff]

it is a late production 11cab. The early ones had no louvres, just a flat panel and the later ones had the louvres. So as has been mentioned it is more likely to be a 1941.

[cletrac (RIP)]

Cliff, my cab 11 F15A has serial number 1G 10495 F on the frame which makes its production date in August 1940 and it has the louvers and Chev rear ends.Isn't 1941 production all cab 12s?

[cliff]

you are probably quite right but production of the 11 cabs did not start till April 1940 according to Greg's Blueprint for Victory book. As for cab 12's they probably did not start production until 1941 but when is the question. One sure thing is though that the pictured vehicle is not 1939 but late production 1940 or early 1941 as it has the air vents in the front panels either side of the grill.

Another way maybe to find out is when did production of 8cwt 4X2's stop? The 8cwt were fazed out in favour of the 15cwt and this date may give a bearing as to age.

I also looked at the Humber photos and if that is photos of an almost fully restored vehicle my wheelchair is Ford V8 powered.

[Alex van de Wetering]

The thing that caught my eye on this F8, was another example of the lenghtened "short box". Every once in a while one pops up and it seems all of them are located in Canada, or recently transported from Canada.
These lenghtened boxes have been discussed on MLU before and I would be interesting to discuss this issue a little further. I don't have any good arguments, but I tend to think they were lenghtened by the Army during ww2 for homeland use and never left the continent; possibly the 8cwt Wireless trucks were converted to GS trucks as a solution for a shortage of jeeps and or 15cwt's on the homeland (?)

Alex

p.s. the windscreen on that Humber does look a little odd. or is it just the rubber?

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

These lenghtened boxes have been discussed on MLU before and I would be interesting to discuss this issue a little further. I don't have any good arguments, but I tend to think they were lenghtened by the Army during ww2 for homeland use and never left the continent; possibly the 8cwt Wireless trucks were converted to GS trucks as a solution for a shortage of jeeps and or 15cwt's on the homeland (?)

The lengthening of the cargo box on all the smaller CMPs were a standard operating procedure for the farmers on the prairies. Besides extending the cargo box, they also reversed the wheel wells, and cut a grain chute into the tailgate. Also, quite often, the tailgate would be heightened.

I have also seen examples where two or even three 15cwt cargo boxes were lined up and welded together to make a new box for the 3 ton.

[peter simundson]

You're right. The Humber is sad and needs major work. The fact the tranny's out and a gear was "repaired" is not good news. The vehicle is in the same condition he found it in 20 years ago with a neat bronze paint coat.
The 8cwt has been sitting in the barn for 20 years. I would be suspicious of the engine being "apart". It was complete and in the truck when he bought it (I found it). He's selling everything slowly. One item at a time. Ed and him are partners.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

p.s. the windscreen on that Humber does look a little odd. or is it just the rubber?

No, it's the late style windscreen. It indeed looks odd compared to the early style.

H.

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

Canadian orders placed in 1940 continued into 1941 with 1940 numbers, but all of the earliest British orders though placed 22nd June 1940, or thereabouts, were 1941 Models. Thus there were parallel models for some months! The # 12 cab and of course # 42 was a 1941 change and I have the Chevrolet cut-off somewhere.

I have the 1940 Ford engine numbers by month so can date the engine although they could then have sat around for a time pending chassis installation.