Cab 11 C15 and 2A1 body

Dennis Gelean (RIP) · #1 20-03-08, 07:07

Learning from this the thread, But would like to know the difference between a 2K1 body and a Wire=5 body??
What is the meaning Cab 11,12,13,14, 15 etc is this referring to the roof hatch?
My f15a gs, F15a WT,C15a gs all have the same square hatch.
Lots to learn, new on forum, better than a dictionary.
Would like to buy a Glossary of all the terms if there is one.
dennis gelean dgelean@xplornet.com 2can on ebay

cletrac (RIP) · #2 20-03-08, 07:30

The CMPs with the windshields leaning back are Cab 11 or Cab 12. The Cab 11s were made in 1940 and had no roof hatch and a very small opening engine hood. The Cab 12s were made in 1941 and had a square roof hatch and a larger engine hood. The Cab 13s had the windshield sloping forward and the 1942 to 1944 models had square roof hatches while the late 1944 and 1945 models had the round roof hatch.
2K1 is the model name for the house type wireless body and 15441-M-Wire-5 is the model name for the truck with the 2K1 body on it.

cletrac (RIP) · #3 12-06-08, 00:24

I've been asked for measurements for a POW can holder so will post the pix here. This is an excellent holder off a Cab 11 with 2A1 box. The 2B1 I have uses exactly the same box and it looks like all the 15 cwts use the same thing.

cletrac (RIP) · #4 12-06-08, 00:34

I scanned the lid so if you print the pic full size it has to be right.
The body of the holder is made of 1/16" material and the rest is all 1/8" thick.

cletrac (RIP) · #5 20-08-08, 06:49

I've been trying to figure out what all would have been carried in an AAAT truck. From what I can see they had a crew of four. They had a Boyes in a wooden crate across the front of the box and the Motley mount with one Bren on early models and two or three Brens on later versions.
These excerpts from training manuals show how much ammo was carried. I can't find anything on how much Bren ammo they carried on the early trucks that didn't have the 100 round drum mags. They'd also have two bandoleers with 50 rounds each for the Enfields in the cab mounts. Add to that the cleaning kits and accessories for the guns and there's getting to be a bit of a clutter.

Colin Macgregor Stevens · #6 20-08-08, 07:16

The pilot model of the Ford 15 Cwt that was saved by Gary Moonie many years ago has been sold to Don Gordon of Victoria, BC, Canada for restoration. Included was the
2A1 box that Colin Stevens brought out from Saskatchewan.

Don has a good reputation restoring DND / CMP vehicles. At the MVPA COnvention in Portland, Oregon in August, he won a price for his restored C8A Cab 12 DND truck. He has also restored a C15A Cab 13 CMP.

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Originally Posted by cletrac

I've been trying to figure out what all would have been carried in an AAAT truck. From what I can see they had a crew of four. They had a Boyes
>>>>>>>>>>> BOYS
in a wooden crate across the front of the box and the Motley mount with one Bren on early models and two or three Brens on later versions.
These excerpts from training manuals show how much ammo was carried. I can't find anything on how much Bren ammo they carried on the early trucks that didn't have the 100 round drum mags. They'd also have two bandoleers with 50 rounds each for the Enfields in the cab mounts. Add to that the cleaning kits and accessories for the guns and there's getting to be a bit of a clutter.

cletrac (RIP) · #7 21-11-08, 00:54

Here are some pretty good shots from Life magazine off another thread. There's an AAAT, then a cable 1, and a GS version.
On the AAAT you can see 4 cases of clips for the Bren gun on the drivers side rear fender. In the pass rear corner of the box is what looks like a roll of signal wire of some kind and between the cab and box is a camo net. I thought the thing near the gunner's left hip was for the motley setup then I realized it's a bayonet for a No 1 Enfield. I can't tell if it's a Chev or Ford or if a 4x4 or not. It does have a pintle hitch .
The Cable 1 is a Ford judging by the rear end and from the ride height I'd guess a 4x2. Notice no pintle hitch. What kind of setup is the soldier in the back seated at?
The GS is a Chev and note the cloth covers over the vent screens. They must be in dusty conditions! That's a roll of barbed wire on the push bar and the caption says they're loading ammo but those boxes look more like shipping crates for a Bren or Boyes or the like. What would that little contraption on the front of the truck box be for? It's not shown in the parts list.