Vehicles used by Dutch Prinses Irene Brigade

[Rogier Peeters]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Is the "truck 15 cwt, 4x2 GS Ford" a CMP?

I don't know.

Could this be another of the 15 cwt Ford GS trucks, judging from the (partially visible) census number: http://www.nederlandsfotomuseum.nl/c...elf,1/lang,nl/

If so, it may be this vehicle (note the cyclist and the trailer behind the truck): http://www.nederlandsfotomuseum.nl/c...elf,1/lang,nl/

Any thoughts?

[Alex van de Wetering]

Any thoughts?

Indeed, the trucks in both pictures seem to be one and the same; there is a jerrycan just behind the cab which can be seen in both pictures. Clearly a Fordson, with a German (?) trailer on tow (Flak trailer with kastenaufbau?)

Great info, Rogier!

Alex

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Rogier Peeters

Could this be another of the 15 cwt Ford GS trucks, judging from the (partially visible) census number: http://www.nederlandsfotomuseum.nl/c...elf,1/lang,nl/

If so, it may be this vehicle (note the cyclist and the trailer behind the truck): http://www.nederlandsfotomuseum.nl/c...elf,1/lang,nl/

Rogier,

As pointed out by you and Alex, these pictures feature a Fordson WOT2 15-cwt truck. The first picture shows a Fordson with a census number Z4846x87, one which falls in the range Z4844001 - Z4847000 quoted by Rich. As these were allocated to "Ford - Truck 15cwt 4x2 G/S" trucks, could be the case that the "Ford" and "Fordson" trucks in your list of 15-cwt vehicle types were both Fordson WOT2's?

Thanks,
Hanno

[Rogier Peeters]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

As pointed out by you and Alex, these pictures feature a Fordson WOT2 15-cwt truck. The first picture shows a Fordson with a census number Z4846x87, one which falls in the range Z4844001 - Z4847000 quoted by Rich. As these were allocated to "Ford - Truck 15cwt 4x2 G/S" trucks, could be the case that the "Ford" and "Fordson" trucks in your list of 15-cwt vehicle types were both Fordson WOT2's?

Thank you for the clarification. Regarding your question, it would be interesting to compare the census numbers (which I don't have at hand at the moment) in the archive files with the other information known.
I'll leave that as an interesting little thing for one of my future visits.

[Rogier Peeters]

For the ex-Dutch vehicles see the attached notes. I hope my writing is readable.
These data are from another file, Nationaal Archief 2.13.71 - Inv.No. 814.

Contents:
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- trucks: make - engine power - Dutch registration number - new registration number - engine number - load capacity

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- one truck
- pag-trekkers: make - Dutch registration number - engine number
- some (not all) motorcycles with engine numbers
- cars: type - engine power - Dutch number - engine number - number of seats

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- four cars
- buses: type - engine power - Durch number - engine number - number of seats

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[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Rogier Peeters

For the ex-Dutch vehicles see the attached notes. I hope my writing is readable.

And thanks again!!!
I am surprised they managed to ship so many vehicles over to the UK. Did these all come through Dunkirk, Brest etc.? Or were vehicles shipped over from The Netherlands directly?

Thanks,
Hanno

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

Record cards for immediate pre-war Fordsons that I have copies of show "Ford". Contra that the pre-war WD Trials reports refer to "Ford" and "Fordson" as appropriate. Arguably all commercial Fords were Fordsons up until....well the Thames branding around 1955. Of course Fordson Thames had been introduced slightly earlier..wasn't the post-war 7V a Fordson Thames 7V?

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

Hanno, I have often wondered the same thing and never seen anything. I was amazed that before the invasion a certain high-up GM manager sailed across the Channel and thence to Belgium and Netherlands before crossing the border with Germany near Aachen. The cross-Channels clearly carried on running for carrying approved civvies.