Ford V8 battery....

Roland Koster · #1 30-05-06, 11:15

Hi there,

I want to run my Ford V8 on a 6V battery. Which type do I need? how many Ah? I'm also looking for a copy of a Ford V8 manual to get some more technical info. Anybody anything on the shelf?

greetings,

Roland

Hanno Spoelstra · #2 30-05-06, 11:54

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Originally posted by globalkoster
I want to run my Ford V8 on a 6V battery. Which type do I need? how many Ah?

Roland, according to the MB-F1 manual, the battery used for Ford CMP vehicles is a 17-plate, 6-volt, 100-ampere-hour battery.

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I'm also looking for a copy of a Ford V8 manual to get some more technical info. Anybody anything on the shelf?

If you want to learn more about the V8 engine, download the engine section from the MB-F1 manual at http://www.canadianregister.co.uk/do...ordmanual.html

Is this for your Loyd Carrier?

Hope this helps,
Hanno

Roland Koster · #3 30-05-06, 14:52

Hi Hanno,

thanks for your reply. yes, it's for the Loyd. I want to move it to an other shed this weekend and could there be more fun then to do it (for the first time) under its own power...? :-)

greetings,

Roland

Bryan · #4 17-06-06, 19:39

Roland,

I have just fitted a 6V 110AH in the alligator, belive it or not but is still a current Nato Stock. I picked it up from Beltring a good 2 years ago and have just found some one to fill and charge it.

Bryan

Stefan Leegwater · #5 17-06-06, 22:15

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Originally posted by globalkoster
yes, it's for the Loyd. I want to move it to an other shed this weekend and could there be more fun then to do it (for the first time) under its own power...? :-)

Hi Roland,

How did your first trip go? Do you have any pictures, I like to see another Loyd rolling!

Cheers,

Stefan

Roland Koster · #6 19-06-06, 08:20

Hi Stefan,

it just won't start!. I bought a 6 V 98 Ah battery but it looks/sounds like it lacks power when I try to start it. I did give it a quick try with a 12 v battery, just to see if it made a big differece and it did. What kind of battery do you use? 12v or 6v. Do you know what type of 12 v ignition coil I need? Do you also have motor mountings for sale the Ford?

greetings,

Roland.

I definitely take some pictures when it hits the road for the first time. I'll send them to you.

Roland Koster · #7 19-06-06, 08:24

Hi Bryan,

I picked up a battery almost the same as yours. In Holland you can buy them brand new. Do you have some more pics of your Loyd? It looks like a nice one, telling from the picture you included.
What type is it?

greetings,

Roland

Lang · #8 19-06-06, 08:36

Roland,

You answered your own question. Particularly in a cold climate 12 volt is the only way to go! Reliable starts, all parts readily obtainable and MUCH cheaper, brighter lights, can jump start from any modern vehicle, can run your in-car DVD player or MP3!

Starter will handle 12 volts without doing anything.

Original generator/dynamo will easily produce 12 volts but you need to get a 12 volt voltage regulator from a car wrecking yard of any 60/70 era car (better if off a type that had generator not alternator). Some of the wartime voltage regulators can be "tweaked" up to 12 volt so you can use the original.

Change light globes to 12 volt.

Any auto electrician will give you an in line resistor to put in the fuel gauge wire to reduce it to 6 volt so you dont have to change your instrument. All the other instruments work normally.

Coil can be any INTERNAL RESISTOR type off any car. Probably an older model but all motor parts shops carry them. Condensor should be replaced at the same time - take your old one down and match it to one with the same size, screw hole position and wire length - off any car.

Lang

Lynn Eades · #9 19-06-06, 22:41

Just a thought... Restorers often have a problem with 6v in jeeps because their battery leads and earth straps are too small (in cross section) they work OK with 12 volt, but need big cables for 6 volt.

Stefan Leegwater · #10 20-06-06, 06:22

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Originally posted by globalkoster
Do you also have motor mountings for sale the Ford?

Hi Roland,

I think Dirk's got the mounts, but in what condition is the engine? Did you check the cilinder walls? Maybe some rust on the cilinder walls, as it has been sitting for a long time.

Good luck,

Stefan

Keith Webb · #11 20-06-06, 06:34

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Originally posted by Lang
Original generator/dynamo will easily produce 12 volts but you need to get a 12 volt voltage regulator from a car wrecking yard of any 60/70 era car (better if off a type that had generator not alternator). Some of the wartime voltage regulators can be "tweaked" up to 12 volt so you can use the original.

That's interesting, Lang - first time I've heard of getting 12v from a 6v generator. You've tried it yourself?

Lang · #12 20-06-06, 06:45

Keith,

If you run it fast enough you will get about 30 volts out of it.
I have had all my vehicles (jeeps, Dodges and Chevs) using the old generator with another regulator. The Dodge I took to Normandy even used the original regulator "tweaked" but it was a bit tired and the points kept sticking so I just put a $5 Delco from an old Holden on and it worked fine.

A lot of people of course just get an internally regulated alternator and create a trouble free, high capacity charging system with half an hours work but it doesn't look right if you are fussy.

Lang

Lynn Eades · #13 20-06-06, 23:58

with Lucas, a 6 volt generator can be converted to 12 volt by changing in the field coils from a 12volt generator.
A 12 volt generator (un regulated) will put out in excess of 50 volts. (not for long)

Bryan · #14 24-06-06, 18:56

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Do you have some more pics of your Loyd? It looks like a nice one, telling from the picture you included.

Roland thanks for the complament. My carrier is not a loyd carrier. It is one of only a handfull made by Atkinson Agricultral based in Clithero. If you want to take a look at my website all will be explained.

www.atkinsonalligator.co.uk

I have got some more uptodate photos which I will post on the site soon....

But heres the latest.

Bryan

Bryan · #15 24-06-06, 18:57

here's a photo with the transfer box and props fitted.

When I get a free weekend I will get round to putting the controlled differential stearing unit in.

Lang · #16 24-06-06, 22:06

Bryan,

Couldn't you have taken a bit more care with your restoration instead of the slapdash workmanship we can see in the photos?

This is a genuine "Can eat your dinner off the floor" restoration - very nice job.

Lang

Bryan · #17 26-06-06, 19:31

Lang,

Thanks for the complaments. I will try and reduce the qualitiy of my workmanship!! LOL

The whole resto was only going to take three years but like all these things they always take longer. So all being well the inside will be completly finished by Christmas. which means I can make a start on restoring all 14 iddlers and roadwheels. and track!!

Thanks again

Bryan