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Old 28-02-03, 22:34
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Default SCWE (Special Cold Weather Equipment) Maintenance Manual

Does anyone know what this manual is for C-SCWE-01
and parts list MB-C2-W

This is for special equipment fitted to my chev.

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Old 28-02-03, 23:29
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Default Maintenance Manual

Hi Martin,

I believe SCWE stands for 'Special Cold Weather Equipped'.

That is what we need here in Canada this winter.

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Old 01-03-03, 12:19
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Hello Martin,

Your Chevrolet have once been fitted with "Special Cold Weather Equipment - SCWE".

As far as I know the Canadians had two standards of special equipment for cold weather operations, "winterized" for use in temperatures down to -29 degr. F (-20 C) and "arcticised" for use in temperatures down to -40 degr. F (-40 C). To my knowledge the SCWE is supposed to be cold weather equipment according to the "winterized" standard.

I own 3 Chevrolet C15 delivered under contract SM 6050 which was once equipped with the "SCWE".

I have enclosed a scanned image to show the publication plates according to one of the vehicles and the special equipment.

The "C-SCWE-01" is the parts list for the "SCWE" and the "MB-C2-W" is the Maintenance Manual. I have a original copy of the parts list but have never seen the MB-C2-W. According to the late Peter Ford's excellent CMP-INFOEX the "MB-C2-W" is a supplement to the "MB-C2" Maintenance Manual. But as far as I can read the publication plate for the vehicle the "MB-C2-W" must be a "MB-C2" with the supplement printed as a part of the manual. In the "Drivers Handbook C15-HB1-W" the supplement about the "SCWE" is printed in the book.

Hopefully someone can help to solve the question about the "MB-C2-W".
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Old 01-03-03, 12:26
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Lightbulb SCWE Parts List

The "C-SCWE-01" looks like this. No illustrations, and only 8 + II pages.
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Old 01-03-03, 12:45
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Default Cold Weather...

The cold weather pubs are as described in previous posts..
This manual covers the Articized equipment ,including trailer ,van and ambulance heating systems fo GM



#A24: 180 pages
RTIC-C1
GM CMP Illustrated Instruction,Maintenance and Spare Parts List for Artic Equipment,Includes Body Heaters for 3 Ton and HU Ambulance (1942)

The Ford pubs are also on my web site and include..
The FRAE-01 and the FSCWE-01...
The F being Ford and the AE is artic and the SCWE is special cold weather...

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/D...024/index.html
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Old 01-03-03, 13:01
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Default I have a copy of the MB-C2 (W)

The MB-C2 (W) is a supplement to the regular Maintenace Manual MB-C2 my copy is dated November 1943.

Do you have a particular question or are you looking for a copy?

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Old 01-03-03, 14:00
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Hello Phil,

Thanks for the information about the "MB-C2-W".

It was interesting to get confirmed that it is a loose supplement.

It is the only publication I don't have for my C15's and I have been looking for it for years. I intend to restore one with all the "Special Cold Weather Equipment" in place. So it would be interesting to find a copy.
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Old 01-03-03, 19:56
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Thanks for all your information on this manual, my C30 Wireless is fitted with cold weather equipment and used to have a heater for the wireless body.
I would like to find the correct manual and parts list one day, it would also be good to see what the heater for the body looked like and how it mounted so i can understand all the holes in my wheel carrier.

I do have the Ford Manual with the cold weather supplement so if any one wants to swap for a chev one i would be very happy.
Also have a C60L-HB1-W Drivers handbook to swap for a C30-HB1-W I know its a long shot but i might as well ask.

Once again thanks for all your help!
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Old 31-08-03, 19:18
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Hi Dad

This is what your looking for!
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Default SCWE out from the cold

Saw pics of some of the SCWE equipment recently, thought it would be interesting to post here:

On a C60L in Belgium:
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And on a C60L in Norway:
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Old 18-05-20, 16:10
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Default MB-C2 Manual Online

Hi

Go to my website www.canadianmilitarypattern.com look down the home page and you will find one of the Cold Weather Equipment Manuals for Chevrolet CMPs. Posted in both pdf and jpg file formats.

http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/R...%20W%20001.jpg

Along with some other manual sections.

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Old 18-05-20, 18:02
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MB-C2W was also published as a complete manual where the supplement was bound together with a regular MB-C2.

The supplement is at the rear of the manual and the pages are exactly the same as the stand-alone supplement Phil has shared on his website.

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Old 16-10-09, 00:58
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Default Cold Weather Manual

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As to the artic kit really need to know Ford or Chevy. I have the cold weather modifications manual for the late Chevy Pattern 13s. Which I can scan and post.
Here is the link to the MB-C2 (W)Supplement To Maintenance Manual MB-C2 Covering Special Cold Weather Equipment. http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...0Equipment.htm if you click on the image of each page you will see a High Resolution version of the page.

I think this will answer your question about the location of the oil filter in the later Pattern 13 Chevys. Standing the filter unit up right made servicing easier and allowed for a drain tap to drain water condensation out.
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Old 16-10-09, 09:35
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Thanks once more Phil that's outstanding reference for me!!!
Just a little problem: it seems that the last three pics cannot be downloaded in hi res...
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Old 16-10-09, 16:21
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Thanks once more Phil that's outstanding reference for me!!!
Just a little problem: it seems that the last three pics cannot be downloaded in hi res...
Hi All

I've fixed the problem with Hi Resolution images of the last three pages.

http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...0Equipment.htm

This Supplement Covers the following:
  • Cab Heater and Defosters
  • Engine Primer System
  • Crankcase Pre-Diluter
  • Modified Standard Equipment
  • Miscellaneous
  • Lubrication

It helps to explain some of the running changes on Pattern 13 Chevys such as change of oil filter location and size. Those three little pipe plugs on some intake manifolds.

Now does anybody have the supplement for the Arctic modifications, it includes the addition of a separate small gas tank, a cab tarp which covered cab from the window level down and a gasoline space heater that was put on the ground under engine, the tarp of course was to trapped the heat in. There were some other modifications but I can't remember what they were.

Also does anybody have the Ford Cold and Arctic Weather supplements.

If you are wondering about the condition of my copy, it apparently lived in the tool box of my HUP from 1945-1979 along with a full set of manuals for the HUP.

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Old 29-03-13, 08:54
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Hi guys.

Found this old thread and thought I'd post some pictures of the arctic kit on my CMP. I has primer pump, diluter, personell heaters.

A nice detail is the production month/year markings on the electrical motors.

Here are som pics of the insides of personell heaters.

I will post more pictures later.

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Left side heater, diluter, heater switches and primer pump
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Old 05-01-21, 16:18
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Now does anybody have the supplement for the Arctic modifications, it includes the addition of a separate small gas tank, a cab tarp which covered cab from the window level down and a gasoline space heater that was put on the ground under engine, the tarp of course was to trapped the heat in. There were some other modifications but I can't remember what they were.
See Question about Cab 12 Chevrolet FAT for some pictures of that small gas tank.
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Old 05-01-21, 16:29
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Default Arcticized vs. Winterized

An article in Wheels & Tracks magazine issue no. 34 on Chevrolet Wreckers gives some info on Arcticized vs. Winterized equipment:

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(...)
(c) BRKD-3, as (b) but with No. 13 cab and arcticized (to -40° F). Body 4G1 for Holmes W45CE, 4G2 for Gar Wood CA5P crane. These bodies, which differed only in detail, were a development from the 4D1 above, with certain improvements. The 4G2 had a jerrican and oil can carrier instead of the earlier type POW (petrol, oil, water) carrier.
(...)
(e) BRKD-5, as (d) but winterized (to -20° F) and improved winch cable fairleads front and rear, and revised rear towing hook mounting.

Arcticized equipment (to -40° F) was produced in 1942 to Specification OA99 and fitted to CMP vehicles supplied under Contracts S/M 2563, 64, 66-74 and 2613 and 19, and Specification OA111 for the USSR. It comprised special fuel primer (for starting only), engine oil predilutor, cab heaters, under-chassis heater, tyre chains and detail changes to ignition and brake system, lubricants, fuel pump, thermostat, etc.

Winterized equipment was to Specification OA199 and intended to facilitate operation at ambient temperatures down to -20° F.
Does anyone have access to Specifications OA99, OA111 and OA199?
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Found this in the shed the tap needs sorting as its seized up but otherwise complete. The question being are they quite common or rare parts to source ?


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Hi

Here is the link to the Maunual that cover it http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/S...0Equipment.htm

Cheers Phil

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Default Arctic kit

Phil..
This was a standard piece of kit for the Arctic rigged Chev and GMC CMP's..
Not only rare but very unusual ..Nice find..
I can't remember if It is in the Ford Arctic kit manual or not....
Grant has the original Ford Arctic Manual so could look it up
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Here's a scan from Military Vehicle Profiles. They were used on Ford and Chev CMPs. I've never seen one in my travels if that's any indication of how rare they are.
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First time noticed about this starter lever...

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Is that location for the battery box normal on some versions of Ford? Based on Chevrolet cab 13s, I think that location would leave the passenger feeling cramped for space.
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Old 07-08-20, 00:44
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The in-cab battery box and manually operated started are both features of the Special Cold Weather Equipment.

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Thanks Colin, that makes sense
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Here are three photographs of a shroud and Evans Heating Unit from a cold weather test conducted at Camp Shilo during the winter of 1942-43.

13. Shroud.jpg 31. Evans Heating Unit for Office Body.jpg 31A. Evans Heating Unit for Office Body.jpg
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