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Old 24-10-03, 13:42
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Question 4x2 or 4x4 and some other questions

Hello again.

Were there any Ford 4x2 158" 60 cwt-3 ton CMP vehicles? If so, which model/year? Or were they all Ford/MH 4x4's (or 4x6 as the case may be)?

Can somebody please breifly detail the differences in the F60 series model letters - L, S, H, etc?

Can somebody please briefly detail differences in the cab numbers - 11, 12, 13 etc?

Im am lead to beleive that the basic 158" wheelbase chassis (with only 4 wheels not 6) remianed the same from 40 to 45 with only cab changes - is that right?

I have searched the MLU website but i couldnt find the answers to these specific questions - (no offence Geoff )

Thanks (once again) in advance all.
Glenn.
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Old 24-10-03, 14:47
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Glenn,

Actually, the CMP Specifications page on Geoff' site does have some answers to your questions.
Further suggested reading is Rod Diery's CMP Specifications page.

Hope this helps,
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Old 25-10-03, 00:43
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Default maybe able to help

Glen if you live near Yass or are passing through you are welcome to drop in we have a couple of these old treasures laying around in parts and in whole bits, or try Keith Webb's Old CMP site as he a good photo collection on there.

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Old 25-10-03, 02:19
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Thanks Hanno and Max

Rods page is very good thanks.

And Max, I am in Canberra so i may have to take you up on the visit to Yass.

Thanks all
Glenn.
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Old 25-10-03, 23:23
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Rods page is very good thanks.

And Max, I am in Canberra so i may have to take you up on the visit to Yass.
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Old 26-10-03, 12:04
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Default Ford 4 x 2 lwb CMPs

The answer to the question is that there were indeed 4 x 2 CMPs over 15-cwt.

3-TON MODEL C098TFS/EC098TFS FC.60L had a MCP CAB 158" w.b. F-60428-C
3-TON 1942 MODEL C298TFS FC.60L # 13 CAB DUAL SPEED REAR AXLE 158" w.b. F-60428-C
3-TON 1945:
C29WFS F.602S # 43 CAB 134" w.b. F-60424-M?
3-TON 1945:
C298WFS F.602L # 43 CAB 158" w.b. F-60428-M

The F.602S and the F.602L were late war [1945] two wheel drive vehicles built to replace the many civilian trucks impressed for military duty. These vehicles were apparently often fitted with an Eaton vacuum operated two-speed differential. Naturally they had no transfer case. The front axle was apparently manufactured by simply replacing the differential housing with a heavy tube to which the standard 4 x 4 front swivel housings and hubs were bolted. The FC.60S and L had direct Chevrolet equivalents in the CC.60L EXCEPT FOR THE # 13 C.M.P. CAB.


That said I am not sure that although the F602S and L were supposed to be 1945 Models, I am sure that they debuted say in 1944. The Ministry of Supply ordered some FC60L trucks, and I have a Xerox of a Tanker truck somewhere.

L 5585936 to L5586000 Contract SM 2871 Lorry 3 ton 4x2 Petrol 800 gallons #13 cab IWM PHOTO KID 2926 Model C298TFS

L 5587201 to L5587300 Contract SM 2670 Lorry 3 ton 4x2 GS 158” w.b. April 1943 Model C298TFS
2-speed rear axles GM banjo design with shifting arm mechanically linked to shift mechanism in 13 cab
April 1943
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Old 26-10-03, 15:08
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Default Two Speed Axles...

David ..
Ford had a two speed axle on the Model "T" Ford back in the early teens...
Vertical split diff and all...Ford used the Columbia and the Eaton two speed axle...
See here for further info..
http://store.yahoo.com/bobdrake/2speedaxleinfo.html
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