Chevrolet CGT - What is this?

kosbie · #1 14-03-10, 10:43

On the step inside the rear doors of my Chevrolet CGT are sheet metal projections (hopefully see attached picture) which would appear to be designed for some sort of stowage - to hold a box of some sort? Please can anyone tell me what they were for.
Thanks
Rick Overy

blitzkriegwarrior · #2 21-03-10, 23:59

left and/or right side ?

Walde Libera · #3 22-03-10, 01:17

I have asked this question before with no responses. My 44 CGT had these on both sides,I remade them but haven't installed them as yet because I don't know what they are for?

POW cans?

They fit 3-2 gallon POW cans, but the middle one can fall away as it has no holder. So I don' think that was it, plus the FAT already has 2- 3 can POW holders under the rear back body.

303 Ammunition?

Possible but would ammunition be kept in the cab? Safety concerns?
If not, than why did they carry 25 pounder shells in the same area in the rear body? With 6 enfields stored it could be a possibility. I bought one style and have it sitting in that spot.

Need an old arty guy that still remembers what it was used for! I have asked several, no ideas.

Or?

A portable step to get in? Even for a 6 footer like me its a quite a step up to get in. They sit fairly high.

Walde

West Coast BC Canada

Alex Blair (RIP) · #4 22-03-10, 01:31

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Originally Posted by kosbie

On the step inside the rear doors of my Chevrolet CGT are sheet metal projections (hopefully see attached picture) which would appear to be designed for some sort of stowage - to hold a box of some sort? Please can anyone tell me what they were for.
Thanks
Rick Overy

From the look of the brackets ,it looks like a holder for a .30 Caliber ammunition storage box..I had one but gave it awaay a few years ago..but measure the brackets and check against the dimensions on different web site for ammunition cans..
They are all different sizes..
Here are a couple..
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=490463

http://store.colemans.com/cart/ammo-...can-p-218.html

Maurice Donckers · #5 22-03-10, 11:24

These Brackets fit the P60 Box .
The P60 Box was for the Armour Piercing rounds.

kosbie · #6 23-03-10, 12:03

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Originally Posted by blitzkriegwarrior

left and/or right side ?

Hi
They are on both sides
Rick

malcolm erik bogaert · #7 23-03-10, 12:14

its not the subject I know but I take it from your user name that you are in someway connected to my local regiment KOSB!cheers malcolm(once a borderer always a borderer)

Maurice Donckers · #8 23-03-10, 13:25

Yes I have these brackets as well on both sides , the P60 boxes are held in place by webbing straps attached too footman loops .
i will take pictures of the boxes fitted.

kosbie · #9 23-03-10, 19:43

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Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

These Brackets fit the P60 Box .
The P60 Box was for the Armour Piercing rounds.

Thanks Maurice
I like the idea of them being for the P60 box as it makes sense having the AT shot readily to hand for emergencies. However, when I tried a couple of P60 boxes in mine they didnt quite fit - the box is about 1cm too long, so I am still not 100% sure.
Rick

Maurice Donckers · #10 24-03-10, 08:49

I got on to this, because Bart Vanderveen got a stowage diagram for the Quad , and it said behind the door AP rounds , so that is wy we thought it must be for the P60 box , it said as well that there was storage for the AP rounds above the rear wheels

kosbie · #11 24-03-10, 22:00

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Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

I got on to this, because Bart Vanderveen got a stowage diagram for the Quad , and it said behind the door AP rounds , so that is wy we thought it must be for the P60 box , it said as well that there was storage for the AP rounds above the rear wheels

Thanks Maurice. That sounds pretty convincing. Do your boxes fit completely within the brackets or do they sit up on the end of the forward bracket like mine do?
I would love to see the stowage diagram if you still have a copy
thanks
Rick

Maurice Donckers · #12 25-03-10, 09:02

Yes they fit in mine . All the Info Bart gatherred , is now in the Army cars Archive, Bart`s wish was that it would be possible for everybody too vieuw the archive , but till now ....... nothing.
I also still remember that the two bottom side rear compartments were for the tire chains .

kosbie · #13 26-03-10, 19:56

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Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

Yes they fit in mine . All the Info Bart gatherred , is now in the Army cars Archive, Bart`s wish was that it would be possible for everybody too vieuw the archive , but till now ....... nothing.
I also still remember that the two bottom side rear compartments were for the tire chains .

Thanks Maurice.
If yours fits I guess that settles it. Mine are only a fraction of an inch out, but it wont be the first time I've come across something fitted in not quite the right place on a WW2 venicle. Pressures of wartime production, I guess.
Rick

Walde Libera · #14 27-03-10, 18:58

Can you post a picture of a P60 box?

Not sure what they look like?

Walde

Van Hove Herman · #15 28-03-10, 00:02

Sir,
Here some pics of the 25 pr AP box P60 and his installation in
the gun tractor,one on each side.

kosbie · #16 28-03-10, 14:11

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Originally Posted by Walde

Can you post a picture of a P60 box?

Not sure what they look like?

Walde

Hi Walde
attached (hopefully) is a picture of the P60 box and the AT shot (basically just a lump of steel with a tracer in the base) and another of the box in the
CGT. You will see it doesnt sit quite flat, it sits up on the forward lip of bracket.
Rick

Walde Libera · #17 29-03-10, 06:41

Rick

Thanks

This makes sense, its been a mystery for a while, I have never seen a P60 box at any swap meet in Canada. Anybody have a couple?

Next mystery is what was stored above the driver? There are some brackets. Also where were the door curtains stored?

PS

Your CGT body looks identical to mine, what is the S/N on the tag?

Walde

Maurice Donckers · #18 29-03-10, 07:33

I have P60 boxes wich ly flat in the brackets , unfortunatly I forgot camera to take pictures .
Above the driver therte should be a plotting board/table in a canvas bag.
there are also 2 brackets in the top of the rear compartment just behind the cab , I was told that they were for the tripod for the plotting table.

Bob McNeill · #19 29-03-10, 09:24

what sized board as they came in several sizes

Walde Libera · #20 30-03-10, 06:54

Bob

I measured the box holder above the window frame, it is roughly 30" wide inside by about 2" wide and 2" deep. This box is welded to the top of the window frame above the wiper motor, the open side faces to the rear. The distance from the holder to the 2-hold down clamps is @19 ".

I didn't measure how far the clamps are apart.

I think the larger plotting board is 30" X 30"?

My CGT is currently residing in a museum so I don't have a picture available. In a couple weeks I'll get a good picture.

PS
On another note I have a picture of the other holder that is apparently for the tri-pod. This is from another CGT owned by the Elliot brothers of Newtonville.

Walde

kosbie · #21 30-03-10, 10:31

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Originally Posted by Walde

Rick

Your CGT body looks identical to mine, what is the S/N on the tag?

Walde

Hi Walde
Attached is a photo of the data plate
Rick

Walde Libera · #22 10-04-10, 19:22

Gents

I was out at the museum yesterday and took some measurements of my CGT ceiling just above driver. What was the purpose of the holder, the box at the window and the 2 -1/4 NC stud mounts?
The other question is there is a wooden block in the middle, it should also have a spring clip which I haven't made yet? I also added 2 pictures of the Newtonville CGT in 2004.

Walde

Frantisek Nachlinger · #23 22-04-16, 09:04

Opening an old thread after again...

Does anybody have pictures of the tripod and plotting board mounted inside the Gun Tractor?

Thank you,
Frankie

chippyrail · #24 22-04-16, 13:26

I have asked before but I think my post was to involved.
Regards Howard

Niels V · #25 23-04-16, 00:27

Where these boards in both cab12 and 13?

Frantisek Nachlinger · #26 16-05-16, 11:10

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Originally Posted by Niels V

Where these boards in both cab12 and 13?

My friend has a quite nice cab 12 CGT, I called him now if he has any holders like those inside - he said he has nothing except 6 rifle holders there.

Niels V · #27 16-05-16, 17:33

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Originally Posted by Frantisek Nachlinger

My friend has a quite nice cab 12 CGT, I called him now if he has any holders like those inside - he said he has nothing except 6 rifle holders there.

Any chance for pictures of the cgt

Frantisek Nachlinger · #28 16-05-16, 20:44

I will ask him to send me few.

Dusonn · #29 27-05-16, 15:50

I think I have those table holders in my FGT cab 13, will check and make pictures..

Dusonn · #30 30-05-16, 23:19

Here are few pictures of cab 13 mounts with dimensions in milimeters