M38A1 front Bumper holes

Casey B · #1 08-05-12, 05:03

It's the original Bumper and has this odd licence plate holder that looks like an after market add on that is able to flip up if running off road. Any one...Rob can say if it was suppossed to be there?

It has the holes where I see the plate is also suppossed to be above the bumper.
The larger hole in the centre for the direct crank?
There are several other holes to the left of the bumper on the pass. side not sure what they are for. Mine was suppossed to have the oddly mounted tuner for the raidio on the front right fender...so could these be anything to do with this...If not I am welding them up after the collector plates go on!
Pics will show more than I can say!

Oh and while we are here how does one flip the front grill forward to remove crap and sand and repaing behind it?
I see the bolts holding the rad housing etc and there are two on each fender right?
Seems like a lot to un bolt just to flip it forward? maybe I am complicating it too much?
All replies welcome...Oh and BTW I did get the balcout light back together and it works as well as it ever was suppossed to...Lousy! hehehehe!

Frank v R · #2 08-05-12, 14:38

Hi Casey, for your info, the support brackets for the C-42 set ant. tuner do not mount to the bumper , they mount to the fender and to a bracket that is fit under the pass side grill hinge, as for your bumper holes you must remember that during the vehicles service life at one point they all had 2 plates front and rear, one DND and one for the province, my wifes 53 also has the hinge type under the centre of the front bumper, as for any other holes unless you know what types of kits were installed on the vehicle ie history it will be hard to know, at one point my wifes jeep may have been used as a line or ambulance jeep even though it has the 33 in the CFR for a radio vehicle which is how it ended it's service life as the C-42 set brackets were still on the vehicle when I got it , the vehicle had holes for the spare and gas can being mounted on the rear sides,
regards Frank

SteveJ · #3 09-05-12, 02:23

My 52 M38 CDN also has the hinged licence plate mount. I always thought it was a civy add on but now with these other ones cropping up Im not so sure And to top it off Ive never seen one on a civy jeep anyway.

cool

Casey B · #4 09-05-12, 07:47

Thanks for the input on the plate...as for the holes I will weld them up. Not sure what it was there...and thanks Frank yes i have the three holes in the right fender for the tuner mount I was thininking that because it had that it may have had a brace added at a later time to stabilize it as it bacame weaker.

Still have to ask about the grill being hinged.

How many bolts do you need to remove to tilt it forward?
Thanks guys Casey

rob love · #5 09-05-12, 13:45

You don't have to remove the ones on the fender. You just back them off, the holes are slotted. I can't remember if the rad is mounted to the grill with 4 or 6 bolts. You may also have to disconnect some of the wiring, especially if it has had turn signals added.

While you have it off, invest in a rad comb. They are cheap, and will straighten all those bent fins that are on every rad. It restores the airflow, and looks good too.

Casey B · #6 10-05-12, 01:51

Thanks Rob I really don't want to start taking out bolts that just snap any way till after the insurance...so the fewer the better! I'll try it!

Casey B · #7 11-05-12, 05:51

Got the bolts out without a snap!
There were 4 on the rad shroud and 3 down each side on the fenders...and yes you are correct they didn't have to be taken out just loosened off. Undo the wiring connectors for the headlights and the whole grill assembly tilts forward neatly. Comes off and can be wired and worked on separately..
Why did they do away with this in CDN 2's and 3's? Seems like a good way to get at the engine for a re and re as well?
More cleaning to do now...

Here are some pic's showing the tilted grill and the headlight protectors doing what they were there to do and why...