MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Armour Forum

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-01-20, 18:02
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is online now
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 11,767
Default Victory demonstrations in Holland

A new thread further to Sexton in Holland:

Shortly after WW2 a series of parades and demonstrations were held in the Netherlands to showcase the capabilities of the Canadian Army. A number of British Army units were involved. In this thread I will post a number of pictures of these demonstrations. What makes them interesting, more so than standard victory parades, is that they showed the equipment in action.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-01-20, 18:11
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is online now
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 11,767
Default Sherman Crab, Amsterdam

Caption: "Canadian tank. "Mine clearer" before the parade. Canadian soldiers in the Netherlands. Demonstration with a Sherman Crab (minesweeper) prior to the parade on Dam Square in Amsterdam. Leiden, Schuttersveld. May 22, 1945."

This is Sherman V Crab "ROB ROY IV" of the 1st Lothians and Border Yeomanry, 79th Armoured Division:

Name:  141206.jpg
Views: 165
Size:  47.9 KB
Source: https://beeldbankwo2.nl/nl/beelden/d...a-dc1c4e714a73


Plus a second picture of what looks to be the same Sherman V Crab, possibly while on parade on its way to the demonstration?

Edited to add: another source has this picture captioned as "Canadian soldiers with a Sherman Crab (minesweeper) and Churchill tank on their way from the line-up area to the parade on Dam Square in Amsterdam."

Click image for larger version

Name:	32864700130_ac98b8e2e8_k.jpg
Views:	2
Size:	410.1 KB
ID:	111279

And a third, dated 27 May 1945, Amsterdam:

Name:  SFA001000468_01.jpg
Views: 164
Size:  29.3 KB
Source: http://proxy.handle.net/10648/6a32e0...c-003048944028

Last edited by Hanno Spoelstra; 06-01-20 at 21:43. Reason: edited to add
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-01-20, 18:35
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is online now
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 11,767
Default Wasp Flame Thrower, Amsterdam

Demo of a Wasp Flame Thrower on the Stadionplein, Amsterdam.

Back then they thought nothing of demonstrating this equipment close to spectators!

Name:  110133.jpg
Views: 174
Size:  29.1 KB
Source: https://beeldbankwo2.nl/nl/beelden/d...2-148322bec4c0
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-01-20, 20:18
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is online now
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 11,767
Default Canadian army units in Alkmaar

Demonstration in Alkmaar

"In 1945, the triangular lawn between Ferdinand Bolstraat, Rembrandtstraat and Van der Helststraat in Alkmaar marked the boundary of the western city. From that point they looked over the polder to the dunes of Egmond. Shortly after the liberation, on Friday, May 25, 1945, Canadian army units held a spectacular military demonstration on this lawn. Not long before, they had been massively welcomed as liberators. The Canadian captain invited all Alkmaarders, in particular mayor Kinschot and wife, to come and look at all kinds of heavy war equipment that had all been made in Canada. The Canadian men who marched past had an enormous track record; they had fought as a division in Africa, in Sicily, in France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany. Real veterans, to whom we owe a lot! Now in peacetime they showed what they could do with their material with the message and wish "may it never be used for its actual destiny!". The amateur amateur film maker Wagenaar from Alkmaar was there and made a short cinematic impression."

See the footage on youtube: https://youtu.be/S_mx3OcpDmI


Click image for larger version

Name:	beeldbankwo2 198480.jpg
Views:	2
Size:	216.8 KB
ID:	111287
Source: https://beeldbankwo2.nl/nl/beelden/d...0-fe4fe1e5b815
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-01-20, 20:29
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is online now
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 11,767
Default Sherman Hybrid IC (Firefly) "Commodore"

This is a Sherman Hybrid IC (Firefly), which according to source [2] was part of the 1st Canadian Army Corps commanded by Lieutenant Colonel Walker

Captioned: "Canadian soldiers in the Netherlands. Leiden, Schuttersveld. May 22, 1945. Demonstration with a Sherman tank 'Commodore', prior to the parade on Dam Square in Amsterdam."

Name:  141207.jpg
Views: 163
Size:  54.6 KB
Sources:
[1] https://beeldbankwo2.nl/nl/beelden/d...d-0ac03a046445
[2] https://beeldbankwo2.nl/nl/beelden/d...d-92716487beed


This is "Commodore" at Stadionplein, Amsterdam, 27 May 45:

Name:  110375.jpg
Views: 161
Size:  63.9 KB
Source: https://beeldbankwo2.nl/nl/beelden/d...d-9e2fb77293ae

Another picture of the Sherman Hybrid IC (Firefly) "Commodore". Al Bowie noted: "It is a Canadian 1c (Hybrid) of the Three Rivers Regiment (named Commodore) which was one of the 1 Canadian Armoured Brigade transferred from Italy and was originally an Army Tank Brigade not an Armoured brigade so they have kept their original AOS in Blue over Brown from memory. Of note is that this is the rarer ALCO manufactured Hybrid/Composite as indicated by the curved front on the Applique (Unique to the Alco ones). This was a Demonstration that took place 27 may 45"

Name:  110748.jpg
Views: 162
Size:  73.7 KB
Source: https://beeldbankwo2.nl/nl/beelden/d...d-fff71222561c


Name:  89087.jpg
Views: 164
Size:  41.4 KB
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-01-20, 22:32
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is online now
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 11,767
Default Rob roy iv

Interestingly, the photos taken at Leiden on 22 May show Rob Roy IV with spare track blocks neatly draped around the turret:

Name:  141206.jpg
Views: 134
Size:  47.9 KB Click image for larger version

Name:	beeldbankwo2 141208.jpg
Views:	4
Size:	233.9 KB
ID:	111327

While five days later on 27 May 1945 at Amsterdam, all the additional track blocks have been taken off the turret:

Click image for larger version

Name:	beeldbankwo2 204167.jpg
Views:	4
Size:	264.5 KB
ID:	111328 Click image for larger version

Name:	beeldbankwo2 204166.jpg
Views:	3
Size:	268.1 KB
ID:	111330


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra View Post
Caption: "Canadian tank. "Mine clearer" before the parade. Canadian soldiers in the Netherlands. Demonstration with a Sherman Crab (minesweeper) prior to the parade on Dam Square in Amsterdam. Leiden, Schuttersveld. May 22, 1945."

This is Sherman V Crab "ROB ROY IV" of the 1st Lothians and Border Yeomanry, 79th Armoured Division:

Attachment 111278
Source: https://beeldbankwo2.nl/nl/beelden/d...a-dc1c4e714a73


Plus a second picture of what looks to be the same Sherman V Crab, possibly while on parade on its way to the demonstration?

Edited to add: another source has this picture captioned as "Canadian soldiers with a Sherman Crab (minesweeper) and Churchill tank on their way from the line-up area to the parade on Dam Square in Amsterdam."

Attachment 111279

And a third, dated 27 May 1945, Amsterdam:

Attachment 111280
Source: http://proxy.handle.net/10648/6a32e0...c-003048944028
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-01-20, 00:18
Dan Martel's Avatar
Dan Martel Dan Martel is offline
Centurion nut
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mississauga
Posts: 186
Default Three Rivers Regiment

Hanno,

First off, great photographs and great thread. I've linked a history of the Three Rivers Regiment from the Second World War written by Charles Prieur. Prieur joined the Regiment in 1941 and served with it until the end of the war. You can view it here.

On the final pages he mentions two post-war parades held in Holland. On May 20-21 the Regiment lined its tanks along a roadway in The Hague for a victory parade. [page 294]

On June 3, the entire 1st Canadian Armoured Brigade paraded in Doorn in front of General Crerar. "More that 250 tanks and self-propelled guns advanced 28 abreast and 10 deep towards the reviewing stand..." Participants included the 98th Sussex and Surrey Yeomanry, Royal Artillery. [page 295]

Unfortunately, there are no photographs of either event in Prieur's book. It might be worth a look in the archives.

Cheers,
Dan.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-01-20, 23:04
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is online now
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 11,767
Default Re: Three Rivers Regt

Thanks Dan,

I'll scrutinize the document later.

Hanno
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 17-03-20, 14:41
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is online now
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 11,767
Default Parade in Dordrecht

Here are some vehicles parading in Dordrecht on 15 May 1945:

Sherman Hybrid IC "Commodore" in the Van Baerlestraat (source):
Click image for larger version

Name:	prints_3_2_552_326225.jpg
Views:	2
Size:	264.9 KB
ID:	112513


Sherman Hybrid IC "Courage" followed by a Sherman Crab on the de Hugo de Grootlaan turning in the direction of the Krispijnseweg (source).
Note: we have seen "Courage" on here before: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ourage+sherman:
Click image for larger version

Name:	prints_3_2_552_326226.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	272.6 KB
ID:	112514


LVT-4 and Sherman Crab at the Krispijnseweg (source):
Click image for larger version

Name:	prints_3_1_552_319914.jpg
Views:	2
Size:	198.4 KB
ID:	112515


Vehicles lined up (source):
Click image for larger version

Name:	552_319924.jpg
Views:	7
Size:	667.5 KB
ID:	112517

C8A HUPs in the parade (source):
Click image for larger version

Name:	prints_3_2_552_320625.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	437.6 KB
ID:	112516

There are many more pictures in the Dordrecht municipal archives, search for "bevrijding" at https://beeldbank.regionaalarchiefdordrecht.nl/
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Blueprint For Victory David_Hayward (RIP) For Sale Or Wanted 33 24-11-08 20:38
Canada Day and Military Demonstrations Jon Skagfeld Military Shows & Events 14 20-07-05 10:45
Victory from Above Garry Shipton (RIP) The Sergeants' Mess 1 03-06-04 21:04
Dvd - Victory From Above Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) For Sale Or Wanted 0 30-03-03 16:30


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 15:23.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016