First post M38A1

[Samuel Mcgregor]

First time posting but thought you would all like this 1968 M38A1CDN2 another Canadian jeep saved from the scrap heap.

[Samuel Mcgregor]

This M38 will need some TLC but will be back in service soon.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Post your progress reports here. There are a lot of guys with knowledge and parts on this family.

[rob love]

Never fails to amaze me the amount of corrosion eaterners have to deal with. At the same time, it appears to be a fairly un-altered example.

[Frank v R]

good luck on your restoration , your CFR 08412

[Samuel Mcgregor]

Thank you Terry,I certainly will post more. This M38 should be great to work on ,full frame not a unibody like my Canadian M151A2'S that I have been restoring for the past 2 years ,Any info on the CFR service of this M38 would be a good start and a great help .

[Samuel Mcgregor]

Rob hear is a M151A2 CND that I have been eating corrosion from for the past 2 years

[Samuel Mcgregor]

Some progress on the same A2 in 2014


2015

Its ongoing and a work in progress but I'am loveing every min of it .

[Samuel Mcgregor]

A few more pics of the A2 restoration enjoy


Than I went and purchased another CDN A2 seems I can't help myself.

[David Dunlop]

You have definitely caught the disease! I hope you understand…there is NO cure!!!

David

[Samuel Mcgregor]

Hello David that is what I am affraid of,seems that after the secound A2 and 1 M101 a Iltis I told myself this would be it ,but than my wife finds this M 38 and and tells me to buy it, also when paying the guy for the M38 he tells me he knows of 5 other M38A1'S in the same condition sitting in a field not far away and that I could get them all for cheap, now I feel I will need to rescue them also . I am so sick

[Samuel Mcgregor]

After restoring this 1985 CDN Iltis I sold it and a not restored M101 trailer to help pay for my addiction,I also vowed to myself to sell no more.

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Samuel Mcgregor

After restoring this 1985 CDN Iltis I sold it and a not restored M101 trailer to help pay for my addiction,

Ya done right....stick to the North American stuff and you can't go wrong.

[chris vickery]

Best thing you ever did, selling the Iltis...

[Samuel Mcgregor]

I must agree the Iltis was a money pit that I lost $$$$ on, after purchase and the never ending parts needed to keep it running. I loved driving the M151A2'S while in the military but parts from the US add up fast. It was on the M38 that I failed my first try for my 404's while in the military lol the LT was able to convince the SGT to give me a secound chance to pass the course and I did lol I am hoping the the M38 will be less expensive as parts are more readly avail in Canada and having leads on other M38's not far from home may turn out to be a great help.

[chris vickery]

Grab the scrappers if you can; they will give you many of the oddbal Canadian type items which add up if purchased individually.
Many M38A1 service items are easily obtainable right here in Canada, some items are right off the shelf at auto parts dealers if you have the civilian cross over numbers.
As far as the Iltis goes, some guys are diehard lovers of these for whatever reason while many of us are not. You hit the nail on the head regarding parts availability- there is none. In the last years of Canadian military service, many Iltis were out of commission having been cannibalized for parts to keep the aging fleet operational. So, if veh techs were having a hard time getting parts for an in service vehicle, how is the supply chain now for an obsolete machine which was surplussed out 10 years ago? Simply, there were not enough of them made to justify vast parts spares nor will there ever be a repro market for said items.

[rob love]

Originally Posted by chris vickery

As far as the Iltis goes, some guys are diehard lovers of these for whatever reason while many of us are not.

Some guys like to be tied up and whipped, there are people who like to cut themselves, there are people who put piercings in strange places, and there are people who like Iltis's. It takes all kinds to make this world.....ying and yang, normal and oddball.

When you think about it, isn't most of our hobby kind of "yang". Parts are harder to find than for a 57 chevy, our vehicles have a beauty that only we see. It's just that Iltis owners are a little (lot) further over the precipice.

Just got up, and the coffee hasn't started to kick in yet. Perhaps this is why I am being so mellow towards the Iltis this morning.

[Samuel Mcgregor]

Chris ,Rob you both hit the nail right on the head the only remorse I had when selling the Iltis was the fact that I had lost soooooooo much money .I paid $4500.00 for the lemon and put $3500.00 extra on it sold it off for $3500.00 to someone who had a parts iltis,Now I see them sitting for sale everywere for $1500.00 to $2500.00, and not moving.I feel so much better now that I see what you guys have to report on the Iltis.I remember how all the guys were so disappointed in our unit finding out that our m151a2's and older M38's were being taken away from us and being replaced by a Iltis

[Samuel Mcgregor]

Some more work restoring the A2 in 2014

[Samuel Mcgregor]

Old frame cut out to be replaced by new metal 2014

Two new frame sections I fabed up to replace rusted out tunnel section.

[rob love]

Very nice and very impressive.

Now that the coffee has kicked in, I am ready to take on any of the Iltis guys, but I think you covered it well enough, and with first hand collector's experience that is hard to refute.

Samuel, this could be the start of a beautiful friendship. (quote, Humphrey Bogart, Casablanca)

Now where is Stuart? We have thrown around enough bait, but still no fish.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Samuel,

Great projects you have going there!

Would you please be so kind to attach your images? Please refer to Posting Images on the how to. I'm asking because our experience is that photos hosted elsewhere will disappear sooner or later, rendering your contributions here worthless. Here at MLU, we tend to say:


Thanks,
Hanno

[Samuel Mcgregor]

Rob I would love to see some pic's of the A2 you are restoring and as far as the Iltis goes I would rather let bygones be bygones ,its kind of embarrassing to think of all the money I spent and all the money I lost. LOL

[Samuel Mcgregor]

Hanno will I need to go back over all the pictures I have already posted and do this? or would this be for any other pictures I plan to add. I have posted them from Photobucket but I think what you would like is for me to post direct from my computer pic's ,would this be right?

[Samuel Mcgregor]

Photo test for Hanno

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Samuel Mcgregor

Hanno will I need to go back over all the pictures I have already posted and do this? or would this be for any other pictures I plan to add. I have posted them from Photobucket but I think what you would like is for me to post direct from my computer pic's ,would this be right?

Samuel,

I'd say for any new pictures you want to add, and if you have time please edit the ones your posted already. In Posting Images you can read how to upload and attach images from your computer hard disk or from a website link. If they are already on Photobucket already, you can see a table on the right to "Share links". If you copy and paste the "Direct" link in the Manage Attachments pop-up screen, the MLU forum software will attach the picture to your posting here:



Thanks,
Hanno

PS: I must say I am amazed you tackled such a restoration job on the M151A2, the amount of rust is incredible.....

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Samuel Mcgregor

Photo test for Hanno

That's right, you got it!

Hanno

[Samuel Mcgregor]

Great Hanno thank you, I will go back and do the same with the other pictures , as far as the rusty A2 goes I have a friend doing one over in the same condition so we exchange ideas back and forth on the best way to proceed but as I said it is a work in progress the unit was cut in two and welded back together with metal plates and crap. I am Restoring it with mostly all new parts and cut out body parts purchased from Canada the US and Denmark. The fabed up rear fender top's , tunnel cover full A2 rear panels are being produced for the Canadian A2 jeeps by a friend at very good price's in Canada If any one needs any replacment pannels let me know and I will get his contact info to you.

[Samuel Mcgregor]

A few more pic's from 2014 of a replacement frame section I made up when the military demilled the jeeps the cut was made ahead of the drivers seat on this unit.

[Samuel Mcgregor]

Recieved some of the last pannels from a friend in Newfoundland today ,the panels are hand crafted from original templates also very well priced .If anyone is interested in having any A2 panels made for their projects PM me and I will give you his contact info .Remember no foreign exchange,pay in Cdn $ and all made in Canada panels .