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Old 07-07-10, 16:28
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Smile Dodge D-15

This is my restored D-15.

- does anybody have good pictures of camo scheme BLACK or BROWN or GREEN blotches on the light stone?
-does anybody have a spare front bar incl. fitting for me? I know it could be made out of Jeep springs, but maybe somebody knows someone...

Cheers, Erwin
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Old 12-07-10, 08:10
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Thats a nice D15 Erwin, i am trying to locate a photo of the water tanker in Italy which i think will show the camo you are looking for, meantime heres a cracking photo of a D15 in Italy note the chalk mark `seconds` on the bumper
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Old 12-07-10, 09:07
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Very nice picture! Thanks Les.
Looking fwd to any camo pictures.
And:
Hanno has placed a few pics years ago showing D15s in Sicily
with the Roundel on the cab.

Is there any picture with the roundel on the bonnet?
Like the US white star?

Thank you for any PICTURE on PAINTING of a light stone D15:-)
Cheers,E
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Old 12-07-10, 09:17
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Hi Les,

In Australia most WW2 army battalions had a 'nick name' for their battalion. One of these was the 2nd/2nd AIF battalion that a few of its members came from around my home region.

The nick name of the 2/2 was "nulli secundus" which was a Latin/ Greek word for ‘second to none’.

On the picture the word is written 'secundus' and has a white dot proceeding and following the letters. Looking at the chap standing on the left you can see a white dot the same and the start of a letter, just, to the left of his leg.

Just betting nulli secundus was written on it as a 'piss take' for the old dodge being 'second to none' other truck. I think a British battalion, maybe guards, used the same name as well.
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Old 12-07-10, 09:44
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Hi Erwin,

Great to see your D15 restored! It must have been a tremendous amout of work; well done!

As for camouflage patterns, as said earlier I would opt for a nice Italian theatre scheme, introduced in April 1943, which used bold patterns of black, or SCC 7 (a dark olive green), over a base of SCC 5 "Light Mud", plus an air recognition roundel on the roof. Buy Mr. Starmer's books for contemporary camouflage schemes and colour paint chips so you can have the correct colours mixed up.

Perhaps except for the odd mistake, you will not find trucks with roundels painted on the bonnet. Go for one on the roof as intended.

Hope this helps,
Hanno

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Roundels as Air Recognition Signs were introduced in July 1942 for 8th Army vehicles. Optimum size was 10in centre red disc with 10in wide circles of white and blue. Yellow outer was 60% width of circles. i.e. 6in. Where there was insufficient room for this size then a roundel of smaller size and same proportions was to be used. Yellow may be omitted if that colour paint was not available. Placement was to be on any permanent upturned surface like hull decking, cab roof or solid lorry body. However in practice it was placed on canvas hoods were the vehicle was a COE type and open rear as on bridging vehicles.
The colours were not the dull RAF shades but bright shades as used for unit AoS etc. This roundel was used by 8th Army and Commonwealth forces in Sicily and Italy until cancelled in about April 1944 when the white star was generally adopted. Having written that, a white star was placed on tanks and vehicles of 48 RTR in Tunisia in Nov. 1942 and a number of other units seem to have adopted it too during that campaign.
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Old 12-07-10, 14:23
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Default Thank you Hanno

for the roundel info. Your answers are always precise!!!!!!!!!!!!:-)))
Sorry for yesterday evening! :-((

Just contacted Mike Starmer and ordererd the Sicily/Italy book.

Anyway:
I still appreciate

ANY ORIGINAL PHOTOS of WARTIME CAMO PATTERN on a D-15.
Also MARKINGS - military police or royal air force would be my favourite.
Cheers, Erwin
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Old 12-07-10, 15:30
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Also MARKINGS - military police or royal air force would be my favourite.
Erwin,

We will keep looking! See http://www.imagecontrol.com.au/oldcmp/craddock_1.html for a couple of pictures of a D15 in RAF service. Looks plain Light Stone, so no need for you to camouflage the Dodge.

Hanno
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Old 12-07-10, 18:26
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Perhaps except for the odd mistake, you will not find trucks with roundels painted on the bonnet. Go for one on the roof as intended.
Well, here is one of those exceptions to the rule! Would the D15 in the background be a naughty truck as well?
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Old 13-07-10, 22:52
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Thanks for that Mick, think i need to get my bloody glasses cleaned
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Hello,
Very nice restored Dodge

Here you can see old topic about Dodge D 15

http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1249


Best regards

Frédéric

Here my Dodge D15 scale 1/35 !





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Old 10-08-10, 18:20
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Well, here is one of those exceptions to the rule! Would the D15 in the background be a naughty truck as well?
Always an exception to the rule!

After following Hannos recommendation and buying Mike Starmers very good Italy-camo book I find the new basic color as of 1943: Light mud.
However my vehicle was definitely overall light stone when it came to Austria in 1945.
This I found out during restoration.

Mikes book contains a G.O. stipulating new disruptive colors, such as blueblack.
And also stating that color changes shall only be applied if color available.

Thus it might very well be if no light mud was avbl, the disruptive blotches were painted over the (old) light stone too. Right or wrong?

Again: I appreciate any pictures of D15s in camo paint on this thread. Thank you.
Cheers, E
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