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Old 11-02-12, 10:04
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Thanks for the plaudits.

I have Canadian-specific Chevrolet casting numbers on my database up to around 1959.

The other way to tell is by the serial number and any prefixes. C = light commercial 216, T = heavier commercial 216, K= light commercial 224 GMC and G = heavier 224 as used in Maple Leafs. I have not yet found a Canadian wartime 235 but it could have had a TT prefix. The letter R indicated rhd of course.

Post-war:
ENGINE PREFIXES to 1953:
216 CAR: NO PREFIX
216 LIGHT COMMERCIAL: “C”
216 TRUCK: “X”
235 TRUCK: “T”
239 GMC/PONTIAC: “W” for “Walkerville”?
PLUS ALL R.H.D. ENGINES HAD “R” AS A PREFIX
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Old 13-02-12, 14:05
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I had a problem with the white metal lifting on the big end so i put a 1948 235 in to my C15 .
It fitted well into the engine bay but the fan is to high.
So i had problem with over heating so i have got a electric fan now.
I have been told there is a fix but have not found it yet.
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Old 13-02-12, 17:09
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Default Solution is adapter plate 235 or 261

Hi

The solution for difference in location of water pump on later 235 and 261s is an adapter plate.


more on the adapter plate see http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/2...ifications.htm cost of the plate is small compared to the time to make one. Here is the guy I purchased my two plates from pre68bowtie@hotmail.com .

The time consuming part is finding the correct water pump with the short shaft and the correct size pulley. Short shaft is necessary for clearance to the radiator and the correct pulley size is to keep the fan speeds reasonable, should be the same as the engine RPM.

Hope this helps.

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Old 13-02-12, 17:40
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The adptor plate shown above works with the 1942 or later water pump which can best be identified by the angled outlet and the two holes in the original backing plate. If you want to use a similar plate with the earlier pump used on CMP 216s (identified by an outlet parallel to the ground and a single hole in the backing plate) you will need to make it yourself. If you choose to make such a plate, pay attention to the clearance for the bolt head that is more or less hidden behind the outlet.
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Old 14-02-12, 11:38
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Default adapter plate 235 or 261

Thanks for that.
I been trying to find out for years and all i had to do was ask .
Cheers
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I've been reading a bunch of these older threads to figure out my engines. I'm going to be using the orange one since it's a very good runner. However I see I have the "1942" two hole water pump. My older cmp truck has the original one hole style. I understand that I should use the pulley off of the one holer? Do I also press off the flang with the 4 mounting bolts and put that on the two hole pump shaft?
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Old 09-01-18, 20:43
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I tried mounting the early pump and it does fit with the two upper bolts. Can I drill out a new hole into the block to allow for water passage and also drill and tap two new mounting holes. I did a quick spray paint over the rear plate to show the difference between the two.
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