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Old 04-06-12, 12:52
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Thanks Tony for your great response. I'll keep my eyes open.


I do know of a dual cab blitz that is a chev. It has post war doors etc, I have no idea if it's originally a cgt though. It's probably just a home made job.
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Old 04-06-12, 13:05
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Thanks Tony for your great response. I'll keep my eyes open.


I do know of a dual cab blitz that is a chev. It has post war doors etc, I have no idea if it's originally a cgt though. It's probably just a home made job.
Dosent look like one of the post war PMG ones does it Ryan?
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Dosent look like one of the post war PMG ones does it Ryan?

Wow, yes, that first photo, identical. No rear tray though.
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Old 05-06-12, 15:14
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Dosent look like one of the post war PMG ones does it Ryan?
Very interesting Andrew, I've never seen one like this before. Roof treatment is quite different from PMG, windows different too. Still very professional though - maybe a different coach builder, as a one off custom job for somebody.
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Very interesting Andrew, I've never seen one like this before. Roof treatment is quite different from PMG, windows different too. Still very professional though - maybe a different coach builder, as a one off custom job for somebody.
Very possibly
I prefer its flatter roofline at least(maybe not as good for headroom though). It looks more like a CGT No8 roofline and profile
In the second picture it looks as though Australians are also the inventors of the extra cab as well .It does not have a door at the back. On drivers side at least .This one shown on Keith's OLDCMP site, originally spotted in WA by Rod Diery
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I do know of a dual cab blitz that is a chev. It has post war doors etc, I have no idea if it's originally a cgt though. It's probably just a home made job.
Sounds like a CGT candidate anyway, perhaps a late production with the canvas doors replaced. Alternatively perhaps a PMG dual cab, as seen here:

http://www.oldcmp.net/PMG_1.html

Or perhaps as you say, a homemade job. Although I'm inclined to doubt it - I've seen some weird and wonderful homemade blitz cabs (even two storey ones!) but I don't recall ever seeing a homemade dual cab.

If you can get some pics we can soon identify it.
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Old 05-06-12, 03:44
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Tony, Andrew, here it is.
Tony, I followed your oldcmp link and sure enough the actual vehicle is there, although in a different spot when I stumbled across it.
Keith, I hope you don't mind me grabbing these shots from your site and pasting them here to clear things up.
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Tony, Andrew, here it is.
Tony, I followed your oldcmp link and sure enough the actual vehicle is there, although in a different spot when I stumbled across it.
Keith, I hope you don't mind me grabbing these shots from your site and pasting them here to clear things up.
Yes, the Post Master General's Department converted a number of CMPs post-war into line vehicles, mostly Chevrolets, and often C15s with an extended chassis.
They were coach built cabs and many suffered self destruction as did a lot of timber framed vehicles of the era.

Still it would be nice to see one of these restored as a PMG vehicle for posterity.
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Still it would be nice to see one of these restored as a PMG vehicle for posterity.
Yes, I agree, they are definitely of historical interest. Sure they were ugly, but they were very well finished, and produced in significant numbers. When you think about, they may be the world's first commercial crew cab. Which means we not only invented the ute, but the crew cab as well!
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Yes, the Post Master General's Department converted a number of CMPs post-war into line vehicles, mostly Chevrolets, and often C15s with an extended chassis.
They were coach built cabs and many suffered self destruction as did a lot of timber framed vehicles of the era.

Still it would be nice to see one of these restored as a PMG vehicle for posterity.
It would be good to see a few restored in the PMG livery . They would have been a fairly practical vehicle for the time
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Old 07-06-12, 14:41
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I took a few pics of Colin Andersons CGT#9 body at Shepparton, 1977/78

We had a VMVC xmas trip to Barooga and on way home we called in .

The body was very straight and in top condition .I don't know where he found it . He subsequently put on a C15A ? chassis . Colin drove it to a club event at Pucka , around 1982 ? I remember that day as Tim Vibert had his C15 signals van there ,.. I have a pic somewhere .

I think Tim Vibert may have owned it at one point .

I wonder it it is the vehicle Bruce W ended up with ?

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This is a pic of that day at Pucka

Colins CGT#9 next to Tom V sigs van . The CGT had 16" wheels fitted
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It would be good to see a few restored in the PMG livery . They would have been a fairly practical vehicle for the time
I agree Andrew. I reckon they'd look quite smart in high gloss pillarbox red, with the PMG signage on the side. It almost looks like a coat of arms in Keith's pic.

As well as being practical they'd also be much quieter and less draughty with the coachbuilt cab.

The one in Rod Diery's pic is in amazingly good condition. The ones I saw in the '70s were already badly rotted.
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