Roofless CMPs

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Ed Landstrom

My CMP is a Seagrave fire truck with an open cab. Not too surprising, since most old fire trucks had open cabs, even in the Canadian climate. It was used at Camp Borden to extinguish grass fires on shooting ranges. Apparently, there was a problem of tracers setting fire to the grass. I don't know its earlier history, so I can't say whether it was shipped to Seagraves in a chassis-cowl configuration for completion, or whether it had a previous life with some other type of body before being converted.

Hi Ed,

I recall Brian Gough showing me a picture of a very attractive CMP fire truck, who knows it may have been yours.

It looked a like this one in New Zealand (ref. http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=16783) - definitely an attractive type of roofless CMP.

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[Phil Waterman]

Hi

Just wanted to add a comment about driving CMPs without the roof, it is significantly quieter, the noise of the engine an transmission goes by your ears only once instead of bouncing around inside the cab. I've driven both my Pattern 12 and 13 extensively without the steel cap top. In fact I have never permanently installed the roof on my Pat 12.

Did try and make a soft top for the Pat 13, but found the problem to be getting the fabric tight enough to drive more 30-35 MPH. Also never tried driving it in the rain.

Cheers Phil

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman

Just wanted to add a comment about driving CMPs without the roof, it is significantly quieter, the noise of the engine an transmission goes by your ears only once instead of bouncing around inside the cab. I've driven both my Pattern 12 and 13 extensively without the steel cap top. In fact I have never permanently installed the roof on my Pat 12.

Did try and make a soft top for the Pat 13, but found the problem to be getting the fabric tight enough to drive more 30-35 MPH. Also never tried driving it in the rain.

I can imagine there are pros and cons regarding having a metal roof or not. In the Dutch climate, I am often happy to have a real roof over my head rather than a piece of flapping and dripping canvas

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Under that pile of PoW's there is a roofless C15 Cab 13 somewhere.

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[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Under that pile of PoW's there is a roofless C15 Cab 13 somewhere.

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Modified for "Blackout" conditions!

There is no bulb or lens in the headlight, and the wiring for the sidelight has been removed, while the Ford in the background has no headlights at all!

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Another pair of 15-cwts entering the city of Amsterdam, 8 May 1945. If you look closely under the piled up people, you'll see these have had their roofs taken off. A 1st Cdn Div vehicle from Italy? The vehicles coming over from Italy were in a particularly bad shape.

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Source: https://archief.amsterdam/beeldbank/...7-895a127de9c7