Commer Q2: Truck, 15-cwt, 4x2, Van

[cliff]

just down the road from my place in Gympie about 12 months ago. Is this one of the same type?

[S LATHERON (RIP)]

I believe that theres a similar truck in Bishop Auckland County Durham UK.

Noth East Military Vehicle club member Possibly MVT as well

Regards stephen

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by S LATHERON

I believe that theres a similar truck in Bishop Auckland County Durham UK.
Noth East Military Vehicle club member Possibly MVT as well

Stephen,

You mean this one? Source: http://www.scottishmvg.org/8.html
Apparently it is owned by Malcolm Bogaert, he´s a member of this forum, too.

Mb+Commer+Q2_resized.jpg

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Besides the GS, Explosives Van and Van, the Q2 came in the guise of a Tractor as well.

I´ll make an effort to list the differences between the various Q2´s from the sources I have.

Pic source: www.ianhardy.net

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

I´ll make an effort to list the differences between the various Q2´s from the sources I have.

Commer made 15-cwt 4x2 trucks in the following variants:

• Q15 GS
• Q2 Van
• Q2 FFW

Entries from Vanderveen's Historic Military Vehicles Directory:

Commer Q15.jpg

Commer Q2.jpg

Commer Q2 post-war.jpg

[Davistine Liddle]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Besides the GS, Explosives Van and Van, the Q2 came in the guise of a Tractor as well.

I´ll make an effort to list the differences between the various Q2´s from the sources I have.

Pic source: www.ianhardy.net

I found this similar commer Q2 but its a Bus here in india (Commer Q2 1938). It belonged to Maharaja of Dhar(Princely State)......He is saying its a only survivor left hope it will help

link: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/vinta...thread-60.html

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Davistine Liddle

I found this similar commer Q2 but its a Bus here in india (Commer Q2 1938). It belonged to Maharaja of Dhar(Princely State)......He is saying its a only survivor left hope it will help

Davistine,

Thanks, a nice example of the many variants Commer built. I think this bus is based on a Forward Control Q chassis.

See http://tardis.dl.ac.uk/ARCC/catalogue.html#commer for a full list of types built by Commer (part of the Rootes Archive Center).

The site lists the following wartime Superpoises:

Superpoise Q Series (1939-54, built at Luton) in 2-3 ton, 3-4 ton and 6-1/2 ton pre-war models.

Q2 2-3 ton (1939-41, 1946-48)
Q3 3-4 ton (1939-45, 1946-48)
Q4 4-5 ton (1939-45, 1946-48)
Q5 6-1/2 ton (1939-43, 1947)
Q15 15 cwt van (1939-49)
Q25 25 cwt van (1939-49)

Other than that, they have very little information on military Commers on their site, though, and only one picture captioned "Commer Q4, Ministry of Supply, Archive Centre Luton Collection."

commer_q4_MoS.jpg

[Hanno Spoelstra]

David, Phil,

Thanks for the background on the models!

Phil, you may want to check W&T #75 to see if these are the same models as displayed by Rootes after WW2.

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman

Now as to are any of these models the subject of this thread?

No, none of them are Commers.

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by cliff

just down the road from my place in Gympie about 12 months ago. Is this one of the same type?

yes Cliff,

They were marketed here post ww2 and sold through Rootes dealers as a civilian truck . Rather rare as I've never seen one myself, but I've seen pics of them, mostly small trucks with ute type bodies . I think they ran the contemporary Humber 6 side valve motor but I could be wrong I have an article on a restored example here, the owner chose to install a later OHV 4 cyl. motor.

Mike

[Mike K]

A snowy mountains hydro series 1 Land Rover tows a Commer, circa 1950 Cooma, NSW .

National archives pic . The SMHA purchased approx. 2000 of the 1950 model Land Rovers.

Mike

[Mike K]

In West Aussie ...its a 48 model..common with many post war models.. a carry over from the earlier models eg WW2.

http://ccmv.fotopic.net/p29160070.html

Mike

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Another surviving Commer. This one is the Q2´s smaller brother, the Q15. Hailing from the UK, it nowadays resides in Holland! Source: www.spear-head.nl

Commer Q15.JPG

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Another surviving Commer. This one is the Q2´s smaller brother, the Q15. Hailing from the UK, it nowadays resides in Holland!

This Q15 has since been repainted in an attractive, but incorrect RAF blue colour:

47745162982_3f519d109b_k.jpg

[Phil Waterman]

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

In West Aussie ...its a 48 model..common with many post war models.. a carry over from the earlier models eg WW2.
http://ccmv.fotopic.net/p29160070.html

Hi Mike

Your link to CCMV leads to a really interesting collection of photos of Military and Civilian Trucks, I spent a long time wondering around it the pictures.

Their home page is http://ccmv.fotopic.net/ thanks for giving me another reason to sit in front of the computer screen when I should be out in the shop working. But it is an interesting bunch of photos.

Cheers Phil

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman

Your link to CCMV leads to a really interesting collection of photos of Military and Civilian Trucks, I spent a long time wondering around it the pictures.

Their home page is http://ccmv.fotopic.net/ thanks for giving me another reason to sit in front of the computer screen when I should be out in the shop working. But it is an interesting bunch of photos.

Yes Phil,

I did the same ..many restored old trucks there ..hours of pics to look at. Many military trucks as well . I think anyone can send in pics to add to the list.

[Alex van de Wetering]

I remember seeing another British-owned 30cwt Commer Q2 at the Dutch liberation day in 1995; will scan a pic of the truck in question in the next few days (also remember we discussed the truck in another MLU thread)

There should be another closed cab Commer (Q2?) in one of the bigger Australian MV museums; saw it on a DVD, just last week.

Than there is the Q2 tractor with Queen Mary that used to be in Holland a few years ago.....not a COE like the one on Ian Hardy's website, but one WITH a nose....Hanno, you probably know where that one is right now.


Anyway, back to the subject....I haven't seen too much information, nor surviving examples of the 15cwt. I do remember seeing a 1/76 scale modelling drawing of the truck in question.

Alex