Reproduction UC Track availability?

ajmac · #1 12-05-10, 19:15

We could do with merging parts of these threads together! I'll continue on this one due to the title!
I'm on to it.... when I get a good original as a pattern I'll get a quote, I've posed the question already.... watch this space. Depanding on the quote I'll consider stumping up the set-up costs and offering the track 'ready to fit', fag packet calculation shows it isn't going to be cheap as there are so many links for an entire carrier

one of the reasons why no one has done it before.... perhaps. I dread to think how much the new Sherman track from Albert Steenman (sp?)

eddy8men · #2 12-05-10, 22:18

pretty sure it was £10k for a set of new sherman tracks if memory serves me right, i think £3k for the carrier would be about right but then again when there are no more tracks left you'll have no choice, so maybe better that enthusiasts get together and work something out as opposed to a dealer doing it making a living out of us.
alistair i know where there are two t16's for sale from the same guy in the midlands, i had a look at them a couple of month back, let me know if you're interested and i'll fill you in on a couple of interesting details.

all the best

eddy

ajmac · #3 12-05-10, 23:35

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Originally Posted by eddy8men

better that enthusiasts get together and work something out as opposed to a dealer doing it making a living out of us

Yup - some dealers really don't do it for a love of the hobby, but lets not get into that.

RichardT10829 · #4 13-05-10, 09:13

dont get me started on this guys hahahaha the lads here are probably sick of my rants about the hoarding pirates of the MV fraternity

i am blown away that there are more UK members on here (carrier wise) now with our brothers over seas it takes a good day to sometimes get a reply due to the time zone differential...... i am sad and always seem to floating about on here it gets lonely on these boards sometimes

tankbarrell · #5 13-05-10, 09:20

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Originally Posted by eddy8men

pretty sure it was £10k for a set of new sherman tracks if memory serves me right,

eddy

Try 25,000 Euros. Joop Staman has invested a huge sum of money to prototype and produce new Sherman tracks which include end connectors and wedgebolts. there have been problems, all of which he has had to pay for before he can sell any and there is no guarantee of how many sets he will sell. It makes carrier track look like childs play.

I doubt anyone here would do the same for the love of the hobby!

RichardT10829 · #6 13-05-10, 09:27

yeah i was going to say you are looking circa 10k for carrier tracks, as Adrian has said Staman put masses of money into research and development of the track systems, mind they are absolutely fantastic ! it would be great if they could do similar for carriers with a rubber main tracklink ideal for roads.

eddy8men · #7 13-05-10, 09:46

thanks for putting me straight about the track adrian, thats what i like most about you :-

nothing

seriously though i'm not sure where i heard it was £10k, thought i saw it on his site when i was looking at sherman inst panels for one of my range wreck dreams.not that it came to anything as the panels were sold out and there's no chance of getting any armour off for a while but it never does any harm to have a plan.

eddy

tankbarrell · #8 13-05-10, 10:49

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Originally Posted by eddy8men

thanks for putting me straight about the track adrian, thats what i like most about you :-

nothing

seriously though i'm not sure where i heard it was £10k, thought i saw it on his site when i was looking at sherman inst panels for one of my range wreck dreams.not that it came to anything as the panels were sold out and there's no chance of getting any armour off for a while but it never does any harm to have a plan.

eddy

It's ok Eddy, it's one of my many redeeming features......

ajmac · #9 13-05-10, 10:04

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Originally Posted by tankbarrell

I doubt anyone here would do the same for the love of the hobby!

No, but... let me tell you a story.... that chap I mentioned with the machine shop.
He does everything he does for the Love of it and winning VSSC races, which perhaps says something about the man I guess

He had his own engine block and head pattern made, his own pistons forged and bespoke Carrillo rods, the lot... as you can imagine Adrian I go dizzy when I pop around the workshop

Anyway... his plan takes the following structure... pay up front for everything in order to beat the ERAs (Drity cheating Bas*ards, he would say) all the R&D is for his own car. Meanwhile let all the fraternity know what you are doing and start clocking up orders for unobtainable spares which you are having remanufactured for your engine. When you take delivery of your cylinderhead castings (for example), you don't just get two for your car but ten, eight to sell. He has got to a break point now where he is making money had over fist because he is able to manufacture ANY part for the Riley engine.

The above was just for interest - as normal I do agree with you Adrian!

tankbarrell · #10 13-05-10, 10:52

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Originally Posted by ajmac

No, but... let me tell you a story.... that chap I mentioned with the machine shop.
He does everything he does for the Love of it and winning VSSC races, which perhaps says something about the man I guess

He has got to a break point now where he is making money had over fist

So not just for the love of it then!

Seriously though, he sounds like a great guy, without his efforts, many people would probably not have their cars running.

Blackpowder44 (RIP) · #11 14-05-10, 18:55

A friend of mine has a WWII Jap tank which he is having restored in Poland. The Poles are having a new set of tracks made for it, maybe worth looking in that direction. I can find out the email of the restorers if anyone is interested. John.

motto · #12 14-05-10, 23:26

For the TV series 'The Pacific' which was mostly shot in Australia, three Japanese light tanks were built from the ground up. The tracks were made up of links cast off an original borrowed from the AWM Canberra. The word on set had it that the tracks alone cost $120,000 Australian for the three vehicles or $40,000 a set. At that time about 20,000 GBP.
One interesting detail is that the holes for the pins were miss- drilled by the machine shop so that when the track was assembled it was curved. The fix used was to assemble the track using under size pins allowing the track to run straight when installed over the wheels. The vehicles were a little bit prone to throwing them.
Keep an eye on the quality. It's difficult enough at home let alone, as mentioned earlier, in China.
David