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			I would suggest that manufacturing has changed over the years to use less material for the same clamping effort. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I remember Jubilee being the premier brand in the UK years ago. Perhaps a google search in the UK might yield something or a post on www.hmvf.co.uk would put you in touch with those in the know in the UK. There is a bible kept in our shop and that is the Spaenaur catalogue. I think you will be lucky to find them like that nowadays. Here is the company nowadays, perhaps an email with pictures to them? http://www.jubileeclips.co.uk/ Will those ones clean up and be reusable or are they shot? Robin  | 
		
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