11 and 12 cabs

Phil Waterman · #1 31-03-11, 01:42

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Originally Posted by Lynn Eades

I think I picked up somewhere that Ford made all the CMP brakes.
Richard, can you elaborate?

No the Rear brakes on HUPs and I believe C15s had Chevy brakes which just adds to the confusion, my HUP has those star wheel steel end caps without the rubber boot.

When your new to the game as I was then having clearly Chevy rear brakes on a Chevy truck made sense but then I could not fine the front brake parts in any Chevy parts book. Wasn't until I took the shoes of the front cleaned them and found the Ford logo that the light went on.

Cheers Phil

Bob Carriere · #2 31-03-11, 03:20

In most instances where I have seen GM front axles on early Fords they are the early massive HD cast Gm axle which has no bolted cover on the front.... and they feature extra cast ribbing for strength......

Those same HD cast axles are also found on early 1942 cab 13 Ford trucks and also on early cab 13 Chev trucks..... yet other Ford that we have observed have regular cab 13 Chev axles front and rear.....

The question remains which ones are original and how much mix and match have occurred in the last 60 years.

I have only seen one very early CGT cab 11 with both front and rear HD GM cast axles...... and have pictures to show.

Then of course you have all the Aussie PE-197 contract C60 with C15a small axles and 16 inch rims..... built in 45 with early rectangualr civilian instrument cluster and a week before the same model built with round instruments.... assembled from leftover parts or later retro fitted with available parts from stores.

On the rims manufacturing...... was there not a picture of a giant press (120 tons ?? ) standing 3 storey high ...flywheel half under the floor ...installed at a GM plant that struck wheel rim halves in one big bang !!!!! ....operators are seen loading flat blank steel circles...... seen it somewhere but can't remember where.... may it was K-H

Bob C.

David_Hayward (RIP) · #3 31-03-11, 09:02

I think that Oshawa plant made their own wheels and not McKinnons who of course made axles, transfer cases, radiators, AC-Delco parts, and engine castings.

cletrac (RIP) · #4 31-03-11, 20:25

Early in the war a lot of Ford rear ends were lost at sea so they used Chevy rears for a while. I have an early Cab 11 C15 (no cab air vents) with the towing eyes behind the bumper and another with the swivel types on the front of the bumper. My C8 has the swivels and some I've seen don't. I haven't seen any Cab 12s with the eyes behind the bumper.

Howard · #5 01-04-11, 12:06

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Originally Posted by cletrac

...I haven't seen any Cab 12s with the eyes behind the bumper.

My little F15 #12 cab has the #11 style towing rings (behind the bumper) and also #11 style engine covers (they bolt into place, rather than clip in). My one remaining door also has an inner skin...

What we'd call a "Bitza", but I doubt that anything has been retro-fitted.

cletrac (RIP) · #6 01-04-11, 16:52

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"My little F15 #12 cab has the #11 style towing rings (behind the bumper) and also #11 style engine covers (they bolt into place, rather than clip in). My one remaining door also has an inner skin..."

Howard, so what makes you think it's a 12 cab then?

Howard · #7 02-04-11, 05:15

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Originally Posted by cletrac

Howard, so what makes you think it's a 12 cab then?

Front panels are #12, ie. 'Alligator' bonnet (hood), Nose Vents, Tilting Windscreen...
Like I said, a bitza. I guess it was built right on the change-over of production from 11's to 12's?!