rare find

anthony urek · #1 23-06-11, 11:13

Probably could do with some more wheel-nuts

colin jones · #2 23-06-11, 12:14

Thats a bargain, let me know if the deal falls through.
Colin.

Bob McNeill · #3 23-06-11, 13:42

Will be taking detailed pics over the w/end as this is the first single wheel recovery trailer I,ve seen. 1400/20 tyres. because of the width its recovery cost is high. It,s very complete, the drawbar is hinged by hydraulic ram, no major mods done, but what the hell towed it in OZ. certainly not the No 12 the previous owner had on the front of it.

Local Chap · #4 23-06-11, 16:39

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Originally Posted by Bob McNeill

It,s very complete, the drawbar is hinged by hydraulic ram, no major mods done, but what the hell towed it in OZ. certainly not the No 12 the previous owner had on the front of it.

I think it might very well have been towed by the Cab 12 (being a Ford!). These pics came off this forum:

RichardT10829 · #5 23-06-11, 17:13

would a Can/Brit carrier fit ? are they same size as the LP series carriers ?

Richard Farrant · #6 23-06-11, 18:34

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Originally Posted by Local Chap

I think it might very well have been towed by the Cab 12 (being a Ford!). These pics came off this forum:

Looking at the skid marks in the second photo, I think the loaded trailer took command of the Blitz.

warren brown · #7 23-06-11, 22:05

Good grief!

Richard Farrant · #8 23-06-11, 22:12

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Originally Posted by warren brown

Good grief!

Good job you can't see the skid marks on the driver's seat

Keith Webb · #9 23-06-11, 22:35

The most available vehicles to tow it at the time were three-tonners, but it is clear they were outside the 'comfort zone'.

These particular images show a cab 12 C60L in towing trails at Monegeeta (the army's proving ground). The carrier on the trailer was loaded to a specific weight with added track sections dumped in the back. The trailer certainly took charge in the latter part of the test.

Imagine driving the towing vehicle - a speed limit that must have been imposed (and you couldn't go fast on a flat road if you wanted to) there would have been restricted rear vision. Making a turn would have been hazardous, let alone an emergency stop.

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Originally Posted by Local Chap

I think it might very well have been towed by the Cab 12 (being a Ford!). These pics came off this forum:

Richard Farrant · #10 23-06-11, 22:52

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Originally Posted by Keith Webb

Imagine driving the towing vehicle - a speed limit that must have been imposed (and you couldn't go fast on a flat road if you wanted to) there would have been restricted rear vision. Making a turn would have been hazardous, let alone an emergency stop.

Keith,
Having the truck loaded with ballast would help a bit, at least it might stop the trailer lifting the rear of the truck off the ground.

There was an occurence once, where an Army Bedford MK 4x4 4 tonner towing a tandem axle tiltbed trailer with a Fox armoured car on it, lost it in a big way when the trailer took over, it ended up that the trailer rotated around the towing eye, wiping the Fox off the bed (chain restraints broke), leaving the truck standing with trailer still attached, but upside down. I am sure the Bedford would have been unladen. Scary !

Keith Webb · #11 24-06-11, 01:12

Hi Richard

If you look at the carrier... that's the one with the extra ballast, not the truck!

EDIT: The trailer with the cab 12 is a 6 ton recovery trailer as you will have noted. Braking tests were carried out at 10mph, 20mph and 30mph and they noted a transfer of weight to the front wheels of the truck.

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Originally Posted by Richard Farrant

Keith,
Having the truck loaded with ballast would help a bit, at least it might stop the trailer lifting the rear of the truck off the ground.

There was an occurence once, where an Army Bedford MK 4x4 4 tonner towing a tandem axle tiltbed trailer with a Fox armoured car on it, lost it in a big way when the trailer took over, it ended up that the trailer rotated around the towing eye, wiping the Fox off the bed (chain restraints broke), leaving the truck standing with trailer still attached, but upside down. I am sure the Bedford would have been unladen. Scary !

Marc van Aalderen · #12 23-06-11, 22:55

But these are not similar trailers! The second pic is a British trailer and has six wheels! There was one for sale in the UK last year but the reserve was not met. I was interested but have nothing to tow it with.

I saved the pics from Ebay. This trailer is also less wide and will probably be road legal.

Carrier Recovery Trailer 1.jpg Carrier Recovery Trailer 3.jpg Carrier Recovery Trailer 4.jpg

Cheers,

Richard Farrant · #13 23-06-11, 23:15

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Originally Posted by Marc van Aalderen

But these are not similar trailers! The second pic is a British trailer and has six wheels! There was one for sale in the UK last year but the reserve was not met. I was interested but have nothing to tow it with.

I saved the pics from Ebay. This trailer is also less wide and will probably be road legal.

Hi Marc,

That is the 7 1/2 ton recovery trailer, originally designed for Light Tanks as well as Carriers. Road speed on lorries in those days was 20 MPH, but descending hills would have been slow. I have a feeling that brake issues would have to be dealt with if thinking of using one of these nowadays. Those used behind the Breakdown Gantry lorries, would have had vacuum brakes, only on the rear two axles, I think.