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[Jacques Reed]

Hi Tony,
The Baldwin filter Number is PF860.
Available from Baldwin Filters (Aust).
95 Fulton Drive
Derrimut, Vic 3030

While we are on filters, I will do start a thread on some of the info I have on bypass oil filters and cartridges as used on Canadian Ford WW2 V8's. They seem to be different to those on Ford engines from the US (smaller diameter). May help those having a hard time finding appropriate ones. Will stick it in the Restoration forum as I got moved to "B Echelon" on my first posting but it is really a restoration topic.
Brgds,
Jacques

[Grant Bowker]

Interesting -
At http://www.equipmax.net/baldwin/cgi_...empartid=GF133 they say "GF133 Cross to Baldwin PF860" so the Baldwin element may repalce two slightly different AC elements.
They also give dimensions for the PF860 as: Fuel Element Fits: GMC, White Trucks Replaces: GMC 854435; White 871646 O.D.: 2 7/8 (73.0) I.D.: 17/32 (13.5) Length: 2 1/8 (54.0) A. Gskt.: [2] Attached F. Gskt.: G338 UPC: 791440009431

A quick search for price in North America came up with $9.02 each (less in cases of 12) at http://www.baldwinfiltersrus.com/bal..._lookup/PF860/. I have no experience of the seller.


On follow-up, I checked the Baldwin catalog for off highway applications and found that the PF860 is almost exclusive to GMC/Chev applications on a variety of engines between 1957-1965. 283 V8, 292 6 cyl, 302 6, 351 V6, 503 6, 427 6, 360 6, 348 v8. There is also a lonely reference to a White/GMC application, remembering there was a period with GM owning White. The only cross reference found to another filter was to the AC GF133, used in an AC GF30A housing.
For the trivia hunters out there - the only non-GM related application found was for a Chris Craft boat (and that might have been GM powered).

[Jacques Reed]

Hi Grant,
Should have updated my notes. The original filter was an AC GF 133 not a 132. As per the attached photo the rust was right at the base of the second "3" giving the impresion it was a "2". Close inspection by "forensics" shows it is a "3". Seem to now remember this discussion at Baldwin's a few years back.
Sorry for any confusion.
The Baldwin filter fits perfectly, is available, filters better, and conforms closely to the AC filter allowing for slight manufacturer's differences. Thanks for the heads up. Know the frustration of chasing wrong info.
Brgds,
Jacques

[Private_collector]

Yes Jacques, you are correct about the battery frame rivited to the base. My base has lasted far better than the box too. It also need a slight 'tweak' to straighten, but has no major pitting that might be a hole. Having said that, it is often only after sandblasting that these things appear. With this piece I am quietly confident though.

I will copy your photo showing the fuel filter, if thats OK? Every bit helps.

Will need to get back to you regarding dimensions, but first thougts are that they are quite correct. I will confirm this later this week.

I fully understand the decision to make slight 'alterations' or improvements in restoration. I like to think some of the changes I make are what Ford would have done if they were able to take their time and pay more attention to quality in construction

P.S: You Chev guys, they aren't built any better, I have been reliably informed.

[Private_collector]

And here's one we prepared earlier
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It's off Keith Webbs latest offering: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...d=1#post167811

[Jacques Reed]

Hi Tony,
By all means you can use the photos.

I chalked the rivet hole areas yesterday and was able to find the ground flush rivets and pop them out. (See attached). That gives me a pretty good idea of the correct overall dimensions assuming the tabs are 1/2" wide as originally given to me, and the rivets are spaced down the centerline of the tabs as they appear to be in photos.
I have revisited the photos I recieved over a year ago and have tweaked a few measurments of the battery holder. The notch at the sides is 5-7/8" from the base when I zoomed in. (see attached).
My old draughtsman eye thinks maybe the sloping front of the sides is exactly 45 degrees. (a nice convenient line for the designer to draw with the 45-45 triangle) Would you be able to check it for me if you have a protractor or square? The measurements I was given comes in close but not exactly 45 degrees.
One other question. What is the thickness/gauge of the sheet metal? Looks pretty thin. The photos look like it is only about 2 mm (14 ga)
Brgds,

[Private_collector]

Jacques,

I'll let you know about those measurements on Thursday.
Tomorrow I won't be getting home until after 1800hrs & quite dark by then.