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Old 07-05-13, 22:27
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I need to keep the M151A2 running so I can get the M38A1 out of the shelter! It was plated in Alberta, and i just (!) need to get it inspected in Ontario to put plates on it.

Q to the collective wisdom - an Ontario Historic Vehicle plate is very cheap, something like $18 but there are restrictions and the vehicle must be reinspected every 5 yrs. this puts an additional cost on the annual expense. Similarly, the insurance has limitations on usage. Or, a normal vehicle plate will be a few hundred per year with no restrictions except for those from the insurance company. A normal plate would also let me buy a vanity plate number like, "74 PATT" "M151A2" or "74-099725", etc.

What has been your experience?
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Old 08-05-13, 00:39
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Admittedly, I skulked past your place in my MUTT yesterday and saw your new Tin Can in the yard. We need to get together!
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Old 08-05-13, 02:29
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So why didn't you make yourself useful and take the garbage cans out to the curb while you were prowling?
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Old 08-05-13, 02:38
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So why didn't you make yourself useful and take the garbage cans out to the curb while you were prowling?
I don't even get my own cans out on time

In all seriousness, I didn't get into this hobby to save money. I chose normal plates because I want the ability to drive my Jeep whenever I want, as much as I want, and without additional restrictions. There is always debate about how well the Historic Plate rules are enforced, but the extra $55 is a small price to pay to have the piece of mind about bending anymore rules (you're already driving something that was sold for scrap). Spring the $10 to the Legion for a Veteran Plate. Although I said I wouldn't run one while still serving, I think the Jeep is an exception (my DD still has normal plates). I get quite a few compliments on having a Vet Plate on a Vet Vehicle.
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Old 08-05-13, 03:43
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and not a darn photo to prove this claim . . . . .


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Old 08-05-13, 04:27
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The snaps are on the phone and I do MLU on the PC. Patience folks.
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Old 09-05-13, 02:51
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Default Ha! The proof

A few snaps from the arrival. I drove it out of the trailer, up and down the parking lane a few times, then backed into the driveway where it now sits.
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Old 10-05-13, 01:36
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Are you sure every 5 years? I have never heard this in ontario


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Q to the collective wisdom - an Ontario Historic Vehicle plate is very cheap, something like $18 but there are restrictions and the vehicle must be reinspected every 5 yrs.
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Old 11-05-13, 04:24
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@Rob and Scott - the harmonic on the mirrors during today's test drives did make all three mirrors shake. I had to put a finger on the inside mirror to make sure I wasn't seeing Eric Blair in the rearview.

@Andrew - I am only repeating what I was told at the Ottawa Tulip Festival MV convoy chin-wag.

Yesterday I picked up the Temporary licence plates and paid the 13% Retail Sales Tax. Did some more inspections. This morning, feeling slightly dehydrated after the Mess Dinner but that is another story, I added fuel and removed the spare engine and transmission from the back end. Found the windshield washer switch and tried to get the defroster blowing. Still haven't found the deflector plate behind the heater.

The inspection station was an education. Bruce Anderson (Allright Automotive Repair Inc) is an ex military vehicle tech and Bluebell wrecker crew! We talked Deuce and a Halfs, M37s, M38A1 and 5-tons. He told how he'd been a test driver at LETE. We had a running conversation about the M151A2, like showing the slave cable inlet and what years it served, as he watched his mechanics work.

The garage is a '60's vintage service station that couldn't sell enough gas to stay in business, but now fixes the neighbourhood's cars and minivans. The owner ran the show, a younger woman was doing paperwork in a tiny office, 4 suitably filthy wrench benders were all over cars in 2 bays and out on the yard. A tow truck dragged in a job. A nervious driver limped in another. Working drivers dropping off stuff. A serious operation that got my respect right away.

The M151A2 did not pass the first inspection. Some chatter between the mechanics about rotted cross members, and a grease "leak" from a wheel bearing. The weather cracked tires got some chatter, but they were passed. There are no seatbelts for backseat passenders, so the seat was removed on the spot. But the problem was where the rubber floor mats had concealed gaps in the floor, and rot in the battery box floor. I have 10 days to return to the garage to show my repairs. Bruce told me exactly what he wants to see done.

No body said these things would be effortless. Good thing I noticed 3' sheets of stock at Princess Auto for $25 at Princess Auto yesterday.
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Old 11-05-13, 04:28
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Just a few snaps off my phone.
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Old 11-05-13, 05:04
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Nice (referring to the lady with the gloves...)!
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Old 11-05-13, 05:31
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@RH - yup, she worked hard.

It was early afternoon and from the sound of the jobs coming and going, they were doing lots of tire rotations. You try pressing 4 car tires up to eye level for 7 or 8 hours a day, and NOT develop a strong upper body. The boss had everyone wearing safety boots. Those things weigh 5lbs each. Trudge around the shop day after day, and NOT tone your lower body.
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Old 11-05-13, 15:12
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For the rotted crossmembers, look for the underbody repair kit. They have become a little rarer these days, so some dealers have broken the kits up and just sell you the sections you need.

The closed channels of the Mutt were a chronic rust magnet.

Floors are easy. Cut out the effected areas and replace with new metal. One of those little Mig welders will suffice once properly set up.

After any repairs, be sure and undercoat everything. The seams and overlaps are areas where more rust will develop.

Ten days before re-inspection. You had better get busy.
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