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Old 30-11-13, 10:22
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Default Otter number 2 comes home!

After 5 months, all the peperwork was complete and we collected the second Otter from Normandy last week!
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Old 30-11-13, 14:46
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ok you teased us with a nice pic but how about more info on it
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Old 30-11-13, 15:10
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It originally came from the collection of Michel Leloup who owned the Falaise museum in Normandy. For many years it was at his woodyard near Aigle with another Otter, his Panther and the remains of several other vehicles.
When this closed down it was moved up to the museum and was stored behind the museum. On his death it went into the auction in May.

Mr Leloup rescued many vehicles from around Normandy and he told me this was one of them. It has bomb damage to the roof, a shrapnel hole in the drivers footwell which you can see from the photo and also the fuel tank has exploded.

Big question now is what to do with the damage?
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Old 30-11-13, 16:52
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Mr Leloup rescued many vehicles from around Normandy and he told me this was one of them. It has bomb damage to the roof, a shrapnel hole in the drivers footwell which you can see from the photo and also the fuel tank has exploded.

Big question now is what to do with the damage?
James,

Good to see you have it in the UK now! Re. the damage, I like your idea to restore it and preserve the damage (as discussed during "Beltring-on-Sea"). If that proves impractical - or impossible to drive - I would carry out the repairs as they would have done during WW2 as per the REME manual provided by Richard. They would still be very visible and serve as a poignant reminder of the damages of war.

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Old 30-11-13, 16:57
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Hi Hanno,

At the moment it looks like it will be driveable as is, If a little breezy! However I do like your suggestion.

I will post some pictures of the damage tomorrow so you can get a better idea.

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Old 30-11-13, 17:04
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It's always a tricky one. I don't agree with those who leave range damage and say ''it's part of the vehicles history'' when they have restored it to an in service condition, i.e. before it's time as a target.
Similarly, removing real battle damage seems a shame but sometimes it can be too bad to leave unrepaired.

I like Hanno's suggestion, not something I'd considered before!
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Old 30-11-13, 21:00
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Leaving range damage is like not repairing after a car accident or years of neglect. It was not "earned" legitimately. Battle damage is another category altogether. For example, some fellows I know are working on a Saracen armoured car. It suffered from split welds, water ingress and rust damage. But, after priming they found a bullet-like gouge in the plate beside the driver's hatch. This vehicle was used in Northern Ireland, so it is not unimaginable that some unhappy Irishman fired a shot at it.

In the case of the Otter, I like the suggestion replicating the Battle Damage Repair techniques. The inventive use of existing or salvaged parts to make urgent repairs should be the story, not the question of how it was damaged.
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ok you teased us with a nice pic but how about more info on it
Andrew, see

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...790#post180790

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...661#post178661

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...0023#post70023

HTH,
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