Repro WS No 19 Cdn battery box

[Grant Bowker]

http://www.royalsignals.org.uk/photos/battery-box.htm
http://www.onesixth.co.uk/vb4forum/s...k-installation
I still haven't found the images I wanted, will have to look more.

[Grant Bowker]

All info from ads posted on www.visualcollector.com as part of listing of items that were for sale June 2011. There is a PDF file that includes the descriptions of the boxes that were for sale and then images that correspond to the text (see the file names to match to the text - the original images had to be split to fit the size limits).

[Grant Bowker]

Another battery box style

[Grant Bowker]

Once again, another type

[Robert Bergeron]

Gentlemen,

Thank-you for all the comments/suggestions and information.It makes this Forum so more interesting.
I have a friend who asked were i got the plans to build them. They are posted on this Forum somewere, could somebody remind me please ?

The plans were very detailed and were very helpful thank-you for the member who posted theml.

I don't have the correct screws Terry , i know but they are hard to find and so are the clasps or hinges. It'l have to do while i find some correct ones.

Bob the wax idea sounds good but i need some more convincing. Does anyone have any more info/ideas on finish ?

Grant thanks for the great pictures , wow ! I used the picture posted on the Royal Signals site to guide my friend the woodworker. They were also very helpfull for the detailing of the woodwork.

There is no rush to finish the boxes , i am in the middle of a family crisis, my 49 year old brother just died and it is very sad here...

So , keep the info coming , it changes my mind and helps a lot to think of something else for a change.

Rodger and out for now guys and thanks again for the help. Praise the Lord and pass on the ammunition !

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by Robert Bergeron

Gentlemen,

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There is no rush to finish the boxes , i am in the middle of a family crisis, my 49 year old brother just died and it is very sad here...

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Permission granted to leave the net.

[Johnny Canuck]

Boxes should be made out of beech or red oak, pine has to much resin in it to absorb the wax properly. Beech/oak are hardwoods, pine is softwood, hardwoods are more resistant to use and abuse.
Wax finish is hot paraffin brushed liberally on the interior and exterior, even on the inner lid instruction label, thick enough that when I pull my finger nail across the inner lid, .............well like scrapping toe jam.
Have 3 wood ones, a battery shipping crate and 2 steel ones, will post pictures shortly.

Sorry to here about the loss of a family member, especially this time of year.

Geoff

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by Grant Bowker

All info from ads posted on www.visual collector.com as part of listing of items that were for sale June 2011. There is a PDF file that includes the descriptions of the boxes that were for sale and then images that correspond to the text (see the file names to match to the text - the original images had to be split to fit the size limits).

I think that 6V 100/125Ah accumulator with the handle on the lid is a bodge job to turn a scrapped battery into a toolbox. The battery is _very_ heavy, especially when filled, and there's no way that the lid clips would take the weight of lifting it by a top handle like that.
(Also the fixing bolts go through the filling and charging instruction labels.)

Only very small (6V 16Ah, 6V 40Ah and the 12V 22Ah) batteries had single lifting points, and those were usually a rubber strap bolted through the end case sides.

Chris.

[Robert Bergeron]

Thanks all for the support in these difficult times.

I will be going parrafin wax as Geoff suggested. Sounds right and i like the smell of hot parrafin in the morning. It reminds me of my cross country skiing days in the Sutton Québec area, a place called Farmer's Rest.

Next set of boxes i will try Oak or Beech and see what result it gives.

Thanks all for the very good info.

Leaving the net ( as Terry said ) for a few days, off to Sherbrooke tomorrow for the brother's funeral on sathurday.Sad.

[Ron Pier]

Originally Posted by Chris Suslowicz

I think that 6V 100/125Ah accumulator with the handle on the lid is a bodge job to turn a scrapped battery into a toolbox.

Chris.

I agree with Chris here! You can see the holes in the side in the inside of box shot where the handles have been removed. You would not want to put many tools in there either. More likely a sewing/knitting box.
Here are some of my boxes where as Chris says, the small ones have a leather strap and in the case of my smallest box it's canvas.
None appear to have ever been painted. Just natural wood colour. Although I have satin varnished a couple after sanding the blackened wood.
Apart from one 1942. They are all dated 1945. Shame, as my FFW Morris is 1940. But then my WS11 set and ancillaries are all Australian........Beggars can't be choosers!! Ron

[Johnny Canuck]

Pictures of Accumulators and batteries.

An accumulator is a single cell, a battery is a series of cells in English parlance.

It is sort of hilarious, as research should be done before commencing a project; not when it is nearly finished. But I'm the idiot that wanted $300 to make an exact copy. Hinges are unobtainium and will have to be custom made, same for the catches. $400!

Anyways here goes.

I took a battery box into work and had the boss look at it, he knows his woods much better than I do. He identified beech, oak and mahogany in the one box I had brought in. It would appear that in wartime Britain they used whatever was around that day.

PS Grant I'm not a Visual Collector, I actually acquire the real thing, two of the wooden boxes I have are the ones David Gordon had on his site.

First, a page from WFTW Appendix 9-2



6 Volt 100-125 AH Mk.IV







6 Volt 72 AH No.2






6 Volt 72 AH No.2






End of Part 1

[Johnny Canuck]

Batteries and Accumulators Part 2

I think this is a Canadian item, what it was for.................. I don't know, possibly a R103.

Pattern 5344









Unknown, possibly a homebrew.








End of Part 2

[Johnny Canuck]

Batteries and Accumulators Part 3

Shipping/Transit Case for a 6 Volt 85 AH Mk.II ZB 0102(Lid) Side 6 Volt 85 AH Mk.ILXX ZB C10 (Canadian??). Screw holes in the top seem to match so who knows which is correct or both?










Steel Battery Boxes

6 Volt 85 AH ZB 12716 1953










End of Part 3

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by Johnny Canuck

Batteries and Accumulators Part 2

I think this is a Canadian item, what it was for.................. I don't know, possibly a R103.

Pattern 5344


Unknown, possibly a homebrew.

Hmm... "Pattern xxxx" sounds more like Naval than army use, might possibly be air force, but that's a fairly small 12V battery pack intended to be hand carried by the look of the strap fixing for a leather shoulder strap. Possibly a signalling lamp?

I think the "homebrew" one is just that, and made from a surplus headset case (they were issued with switchboards to carry the operators headset and breast microphone.) This is probably to run a doorbell.

Best,
Chris