Historic Vehicle Plates: Pros/Cons in Ontario, Canada

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Originally Posted by Barry Churcher

Grant, Janet says I go into nauseating detail every time I tell a story. If you go to the link below and scroll half way down the page you will see "Summary of Changes Effective July 1, 2016".

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It is amazing the number of vehicles we condemn without even getting up on a hoist.

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Barry

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/tru...ons.shtml#form

View the draft proposed changes here. This will likely be the new standaeds.
http://www.ontariocanada.com/registr...chmentId=27411

That is depressing! Got to love the thoughtful bureaucrats in this Nanny-State province. Anyone want to chime in on emissions testing?

[chris vickery]

Guess this means guys level of restoration will just have to be stepped up a notch.
Do things right the first time and avoid issues.

[Robin Craig]

Frankly too many people run too many ropey pieces of junk on the road in this province and we are living in the dark ages with no yearly inspection.

Yes getting a Land Rover or Bedford truck parking brake measured will be a pain but it is for the good of all of our safety an those of our loved ones.

As long as this pendulum slows down and settles at a yearly inspection I am ok, but if we let the swing continue to the point the next door province does with bolting on extra retrofit gear then that is too far.

Of to continue building my garage and fume quietly in the corner over cheap MV owners, but that is another story, bah humbug!

[chris vickery]

Robin you hit upon the point that I agree with concerning those who opt for putting junk on the road.
We have all seen low quality resto attempts or cobbled together pieces simply because the owners choose not to do what is right. There is too much "good enough" mentality out there. I would rather see enthusiasts take the time to make their rides mechanically sound than spend huge dollars tricking them out with fancy paint and tons of useless kit. At the end of the day some decent brakes are going to do a lot more than some cool gear hanging all over the place.

[Barry Churcher]

I take might out for a leisurely drive all the time !
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1957 Dutch DAF YA 314 Army truck , Dutch Army 1976 Progress AW 57/5 mobile field kitchen, 1981 immersion heater

Terry, as a word of caution, have you had your DAF weighed? I know my DAF tipper hovers very close to the magic 4500 kg number. How much does the kitchen trailer weigh? With Historic plates do you still need a yearly inspection if over 4500kg? My understanding is that you do need a yearly inspection (yellow sticker) although I haven't done one on my own truck but will when I decide to put it back on the road. I will also take it to the local landfill and get a weight slip so if ever stopped by the MTO I have some paperwork backup. The MTO guys don't know everything but if they think they are right you can't win. It's better to have back up readily at hand.
Cheers,
Barry

[chris vickery]

Terry you will want your truck to lose a couple pounds somehow.
The threshold is 4500kg and over....
What is the listed curb weight according to your data plates?

[Jack Innes]

Terry,

The Registered Gross Weight is the combined weight of the truck, trailer & load in the eyes of the MOT.

From the MOT site under Definitions;

Commercial motor vehicle: any motor vehicle with a permanently attached truck or delivery body, including ambulances, hearses, casket wagons, fire apparatus, buses and tractors used for hauling loads.

Gross weight: the combined weight of vehicle and load.

Registered gross weight: the weight for which a permit has been issued under the HTA; the fee for the permit is based upon the weight of the vehicle or combination of vehicles and load.

From personal experience, this year I had to reduce the RGW on my diesel 3/4 ton pickup to 4600kg since my CVOR has expired (without notification). This leaves me the capability of carrying about a large motorcycle legally on my tandem flat bed trailer before I am over weight.