M113 Lynx photos needed for book project

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by Peter Phillips

I believe I have a pic of a CH-147 (Chinook) lifting a disabled Lynx while on excercise in Chilcotin, BC, Jan 1987. I'll scan and post it if I can locate it. FWIW I backed a Lynx into a M-113 Queen Mary when off loading from my flat deck breaking a headlight on the 113 with the toboggan rack on the Lynx (remember those contraptions?). They were peppy little suckers compared to a 113. One of those oops moments

The 12eRBC had a rear deck for toboggans on some of their Lynxes. That would have been circa 1977-80. Nothing spectacular just 2" steel angle, but a clever idea that used the same bolt holes as other fittings like the lifting eyes. The rack overhung the rear panel completely.

[Douglas Greville]

Whilst we are on the topic of M113s, I thought this may interest everyone. I have copied it from another forum. I do not know how accurate the listing is, but it is a bit stunning in its size. Also, some of those vehicles may be "one offs".
It does not list how many countries have bought/used M113, but it is dozens
and probably close to 100:

AIFV
AIFV [Low Profile Weapon M129] - 20mm cannon
AIFV [Low Profile Weapon KBA] - 25mm cannon
AIFV [Low Profile Weapon Rh 202] - 20mm cannon
AIFV [Low Profile Weapon .50] - .50 calibre MG
AIFV [Turreted 25mm Cannon] - Final development vehicle
AIFV-B-25 - Belgian Army MICV version
AIFV-B-50 - Belgian Army IFV version
AIFV-B-ATK - Belgian Army Milan ATGM armed version
AIFV-B-CP - Belgian Army command post version
Arisgator - M113 modified for the seaborne landing role
ARV(L) - Recovery variant of the M113 family used by Canada and Australia
Atilgan - Turkish M113 fitted with stinger missile mount
Battar - Fitted with twin recoilless rifles in an overhead mount
CM-21 - Series of Taiwanese produced versions
Composite Hull Project - Experimental hull construction
EIFV aka Egyptian Infantry Fighting Vehicle Light - A hybrid vehicle utilising the two-man Bradley turret
Elevated TOW System - Danish experimental TOW mounting
FeurleitPanzer 63 - Swiss artillery fire control vehicle
Fire Support Combat Vehicle - Modified M113 fitted with 105mm howitzer in casemate mount
Fire Support Combat Vehicle [Graztl concept] - Original concept with 105mm mounted over lhs track
G-5 - Israeli Army variant
G-6 aka Zelda - Israeli Army variant
G-7 aka Zelda II - Israeli Army variant
Geniepanzer 63 - Swiss M113 with dozer blade
Hovet - M163 in israeli Army service
IAFV [Version 1] - 0.50 & 7.62mm machine-guns
IAFV [Version 2] - 0.50 in remote control mount
IAFV [Version 3] - 20mm in remote control mount
IFVL aka Infantry Fighting Vehicle Light - light infantry fighting vehicle featuring a one-man turret
K-200 aka KIFV - Series of Korean vehicles based on the AIFV
Lynx - M113 C&R in Canadian service
Luchs - M113 C&R in Netherlands service
M106 - 4.2inch mortar portee
M106A1 - 4.2inch mortar portee
M106SP - Spanish Army mortar vehicle
M106A1IT - M106A1 in Italian Army Service
M113
M113 [7.62mm minigun]
M113 [20mm HS820]
M113 [25mm Upgrade] - M113 fitted with Delco turret [USA]
M113 [A-Frame] - Vietnam field modification
M113 [AN/TPS-25]
M113 [AN/TPS-33]
M113 [AN/MPQ4] - Fitted with AN/MPQ4 mortar locating radar
M113 [AN/PPS-4]
M113 [AN/PPS-5]
M113 [Armoured Assault Vehicle]
M113 [Dart] - Dart ATGM system fitted
M113 [Dozer] - Fitted with a dozer blade
M113 [Fitters vehicle] aka M579
M113 [Fox] - Fitted with Fox turret
M113 [Gas Turbine] - fitted with gas turbine engine
M113 [Green Archer]
M113 [Integrated Command Station] - aka Stoner Turret
M113 [Knappich HS-30 turret]
M113 [LCTS90 turret]
M113 [Rarden] - Fitted with Peake 30mm turret
M113 [Rh10 turret]
M113 [SS-11 variant 1] - Rear of hull built up
M113 [SS-11 variant 2] - Right-centre rotating missile mount
M113 [Waterjet Propulsion kit]
M113 [XM175] - grenade launcher in pot-belly open turret
M113 [ZU-23] - Lebanese modified fire support vehicle
M113 ACAV
M113 AVLB [1] - 33' span front-mounted bridge
M113 AVLB [2] - 30' span rear-mounted scissors bridge
M113 C&R - Series of smaller vehicles utilising M113 components
M113 Grasshopper
M113 Porcupine
M113A - Australian armoured personnel carrier variant
M113A [Milan] - Milan portee variant of the M113A
M113A [Recoilless Rifle] - Rcoilless rifle portee version of the M113A
M113A1 - New diesel engine
M113A1 [Air Defence - Pakistan] - Fitted with a combined gun/missile-launcher mount
M113A1 [Ambulance - Denmark]
M113A1 [Blazer] - Fitted with General Electric's Blazer air-defence turret
M113A1 [Stretched]
M113A1 [T50-NZ] - Ex-Australian Army M113A1LRVs modified for service in the Balkans
M113A1 [TC-13] - Fitted with the Santa Barbara TC-13 turret
M113A1-B - Belgium variant of M113A1 APC
M113A1-B-AMB - Ambulance version of M113A1-B
M113A1-B-ATK - Three hatch version of M113A1-B optimised for the anti-tank role
M113A1-B-CP - Command Post version of M113A1-B
M113A1-B-CRANE - Recovery/repair version fitted with HIAB crane
M113A1-B-ENG - Engineer version of M113A1-B
M113A1-B-GN - Engineer version of M113A1-B
M113A1-B-GN-BULL - Bulldozer blade equipped engineer version
M113A1-B-MOR - Carries 120mm mortar
M113A1-B-MTC - Repair version of M113A1-B
M113A1-B-REC - Recovery version of M113A1-B
M113A1-B-MIL - Milan armed version of M113A1-B
M113A1-B-SVB aka M113A1-B-SCB - Radar version of M113A1-B
M113A1-B-TRG - Driver training version of M113A1-B-MIL
M113A1-P1 - IFV version
M113A1/Vulcan A
M113A1/HS-820/665 Triple 20mm with partial shield
M113A1B - FSV with Cockerill Mk IIM turret
M113A1DK - Danish Army version of the M113A1
M113A1DK [Variant 1] - Uparmoured M113a1DK
M113A1DK [Variant 2] - Modified for use in the Balkans
M113A1G - M113A1 modified for use in the Bundeswehr
M113A1G [Command] - M113A1G modified for the command role
M113A1G PzM - 120mm mortar portee
M113A1G BeoBPz - Artillery OP
M113A1IT - M113A1 in Italian Army service
M113A1IT [TOW Armed] - ATGM launcher equipped vehicle
M113A1PO - Portugese army version
M113A1 EVESV - Combat engineer version of M113A1
M113A1 Fire Support Vehicle - Saladin turret fitted
M113A1 Fire Support Vehicle PI - Australian fire support version with scorpion turret fitted
M113A1 Light Reconnaissance Vehicle - Australian reconnaissance version
M113A1 Visimodbmp - M113A1 used in OPFOR role by US Army
M113A2 - M113A1 with mainly mechanical improvements
M113A2 [ADATS - Canada - Preproduction] - APU moved to glacis plate
M113A2 [ADATS - Canada - Production] - Smoke grenade dischargers
M113A2 [ADATS - Prototype] - Dual-purpose-missile launcher
M113A2 [Ambulance] - Ambulance version
M113A2 [Delco 25mm] - Fitted with turret from M1047/LAV
M113A2 [Eureka] aka TUA - Canadian version fitted with Eureka atgm launcher
M113A2 [HVMS] - Israeli 60mm gun armed fire support vehicle produced by IMI
M113A2 [Kader] - Egyptian armour upgrade by Kader
M113A2 [SM-4] - Fitted with 4 barrel 120mm salvo mortar
M113A2 [Tactical Command Post] - Company-level command vehicle
M113A2 [TS90] - FSV with Giat TS90 Turret
M113A2 [M2 turret] - Fitted with turret from Bradley MICV
M113A2 [RO120] - Fitted with Royal Ordnance 120mm mortar turret
M113A2 Tactical Command Vehicle
M113A2E1 - Extended version of M113A2
M113A3 - Upgraded M113A2 with new engine
M113AS3 - Australian upgrade to their M113A's
M113E1 - GE gas turbine engine
M113E2 - Diesel engine
M113G - Original version in use with Bundeswehr
M113G [Hot] - HOT armed tank destroyer variant
M113G [Rasit] - Bundeswehr Rasit radar
M113G Beobachtungspanzer - Forward observation officers vehicle
M113G Radarpanzer - fitted with 'Green Archer' mortar locating radar
M113G1 KRKW GEP - Ambulance version
M113G2 KRKW GEP - Ambulance version
M116 - Steel version of M113
M116 [Davy Crocket]
M125 - 81mm mortar portee
M125A1 - Improved M125
M132 - Flamethrower variant
M132A1 - F/T variant on M113A1
M162 - aka M113A1/HS-820/665
M163 - 20mm vulcan armed SPAAG
M543 - Recovery with 5t crane
M548 - Cargo carrier
M548 [AN/MPQ-4A] - Radar version
M548 [Skyguard] - Radar version
M548 [SLUFAE] - Mine clearing system based on M548 chassis
M548 [Welder] - Vietnam modification
M548A3 - Tracked armoured load carrier
M577 [Command] - Initial production versionwith a prominent weld line
M577A1 - Improved M577 with one-piece sides and diesel engine
M577A1 [Ambulance]
M577A2 - Tracked armoured command vehicle
M577A3
M577A4 - MTVL Based Command Post Vehicle
M579 Fitters/recovery version
M667 - Lance Launcher/transporter
M730 aka Chapparel - Bubble type canopy on fire unit
M730A1 - Flat canopy on fire unit
M730A2 - Vision device on lhs launcher arms
M732 - 20mm vulcan armed SPAAG
M741 - Base vehicle for M163
M806A1 - Winch equipped recovery vehicle
M901 aka ITV - ATGM variant
M901A1 - Improved ITV vehicle
M981 aka FISTV - Artillery OP
M1059 - Smoke generating vehicle
M1064 - 120mm mortar portee
M1068 - Command post version
Machbet - Modified M163 with missile launcher in Israeli Army service
Minenwerferpanzer 64 aka Mv.Pz.64 - Swiss M106 fitted with local 120mm mortar
MTVC - Mobile Tactical Vehicle Light, Cargo Carrier
MTVE - Mobile Tactical Vehicle Light, Engineer
MTVF - Mobile Tactical Vehicle Light, Fitters Vehicle
MTVR - Mobile Tactical Vehicle Light, Recovery Vehicle
MTVL - Mobile Tactical Vehicle Light
MTVL Hybrid-Electric Track Technology Demonstrator
MTVL-UC aka XM1108, Universal carrier - MTVL Based Universal Carrier
Nile 23 [Gun] - Modified air defence version gun system for Egyptian Armed Forces requirement
Nile 23 [Tracker] - Modified air defence version tracker system for Egyptian Armed Forces requirement
NM 113 - Basic M113 in Norwegian Army service
NM 125 - Mortar Portee version of the NM-113
NM135 - Norwegian MICV fitted with Hagglunds 20mm turret
NM 142 aka Rakettpanserjager - NM113 fitted with the Kværner Eureka TUA turret
PaNsret MaskinKanon aka PNMK - Danish fire support vehicle
PaNsret MaskinKanon M/92 - Upamoured PNMK
Ruag LMCT - light mine clearing tank
SAM-D Launcher - Rear-mounted six rocket projector on M548
SAM-D Radar - Rear mounted radar on M548
Schutzenpanzer 63 - Swiss version of M113
Schutzenpanzer 63/73 - Swiss M113 fitted with Pbv.302 turret
Schutzenpanzer 63/89 - Uparmoured Schutzenpanzer 63/73
Schutzenpanzer Kommando 63 - Swiss M113 fitted for command
Schutzenpanzer Kommando 63/73 - Swiss command variant of SPz.67/73
Schutzenpanzer Kommando 63/89 - Uparmoured Schutzenpanzer Kdo Spz 63
Schutzenpanzer Kran 63 aka Kranpanzer 63 - Swiss Fitter's vehicle
Sher - Modified Pakistani variant
Sidam - Italian air-defence version armed with 4x25mm cannon
Sinai 23 - Modified air defence version for Egyptian Armed Forces requirement
Skorpion - M548GA1 fitted with mine laying device
T113 - Prototype with 4 roadwheels and trailing idler
T113E1 - Prototype with trailing idler removed
T113E2 - Final prototype for M113
T116 - Cargo carrier prototype
T117 - Steel version of aluminium T113
T149 - M113 with rear mounted SS-11
T195 - 105mm howitzer carriage
T195 [Modified] - Missile projector
T195E1 - Diesel engined version
T196 - T195 with 155mmm howitzer
T249 aka Vigilante B - Air defence vehicle with vulcan gun in large turret
T257 - Prototype for M125 mortar carrier
T257E1 - Prototype for M125 mortar carrier
T257E1 [AN/MPS30] - Ground surveillance radar
T257E2 - Diesel engined prototype for M125A1 mortar carrier
TIFV - Turkish Infantry Fighting Vehicle
TIFV [AAPC] - 12.7mm machine gun turret
TIFV [81mm Mortar]
TIFV [120mm Mortar
TIFV [TOW] - aTGM launcher
Ubermittlungspanzer 63 - Swiss radio vehicle
Ultra - SAF adaption of the M113 to an IFV
VCC-1 aka Camillino - Italian infantry fighting vehicle based on modified M113A1 hull
VCC-1 [Saudi Arabia]
VCC-2 - Italian infantry fighting vehicle based on standard M113A1 hull
VCC-80 - Italian MICV based on M113A1 components
XK10 - Resupply vehicle based on an extended version of the K200A1 chassis
XM166 - M42 mount on M548 chassis
XM233E1 - Fitted with TOW atgw system
XM474 - Hybrid radar carrier
XM474E1 - PERSHING missile carrier
XM474E2 - PERSHING warhead carrier
XM501 - HAWK loader/transporter
XM501E1 - HAWK loader/transporter
XM501E2 - HAWK loader/transporter
XM501E3 - HAWK loader/transporter
XM546 Mauler - Air defence missile system
XM546E1 Mauler
XM548 - Unarmored cargo carrier
XM548 [AA] - Twin HS820 mount
XM548 [Ammunition Carrier] - Fitted with hoist
XM548 [Recovery Vehicle]
XM548E1 - Unarmoured cargo carrier
XM577 - Prototype command post
XM577A1 - Diesel engined CP prototype
XM579 - Fitters vehicle
XM667 - LANCE launcher/transporter prototype
XM667E1 - Amphibious prototype
XM688 - LANCE loader/transporter prototype
XM688E1 - LANCE Loader/transporter prototype
XM696 - Light armoured recovery vehicle
XM727 - HAWK missile launcher
XM729 - LACIC vehicle
XM729E1 - RACI vehicle
XM733 - RACI vehicle
XM733E1 - RACI vehicle with gunners cupola
XM734 - M113A1 modified to MICV
XM734 [Variant 1] - Firing ports on side modified and ACAV kit fitted
XM734 [Variant 2] - Recessed firing ports fitted
XM734E1 - FMC cupola turret fitted
XM734E2 - Firing ports on side reduced to three
XM741 - M548 with M163 gun system
XM742 - ARV variant of XM803
XM743 - AVLB variant of XM803
XM745 - CEV variant of XM803
XM752 - Improved XM688
XM754 HAWK SPAAML
XM765 - IFV prototype
XM806 - Recovery version based on M113
XM806E1 - Recovery version based on M113A1
YPR-765 - Dutch series based on the AIFV

The one that really made me go "huh?" is the M113 fitted with gas turbine engine. Really???

Regards
Doug

[maple_leaf_eh]

Doug:

That is a very long list! There are of course prototypes that became serial production models. As I scanned the list, several jumped out. The infantry APC, the recovery vehicles, the cargo carrier and the CP. It stands to reason that once the designers had a working platform, they would prototype other ideas for it. So if the mission was suited for an unarmoured 'carrier', then the M548 would have been the building block.

If you edited the list to group it by base vehicles, it would be more manageable.

[Douglas Greville]

Terry

True.

I just copied and pasted it and threw it in here for interest sake. I did test it by thinking of a couple of obscure (but operational rather than concept) vehicles and they were in there.
Which is what made me think whoever put this list together, did their homework well.
Note that both Netherlands and Canadian Lynx are listed rather than just "Lynx".
Likewise the Aussie Saladin and Scorpion turreted variants of the M113A1.

I still think the idea of an M113 with a jet engine in it was a strange idea, can't see how that would have been a success?

Regards
Doug

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

Doug:

That is a very long list! There are of course prototypes that became serial production models. As I scanned the list, several jumped out. The infantry APC, the recovery vehicles, the cargo carrier and the CP. It stands to reason that once the designers had a working platform, they would prototype other ideas for it. So if the mission was suited for an unarmoured 'carrier', then the M548 would have been the building block.

If you edited the list to group it by base vehicles, it would be more manageable.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

The list seems to have some double entries.

Originally Posted by Douglas Greville

Note that both Netherlands and Canadian Lynx are listed rather than just "Lynx".

Anyhow, the Dutch M113 C&R entry is incorrect, see my earlier posting.

Luchs - M113 C&R in Netherlands service

The Luchs is a German 8x8 amphibious reconnaissance armoured fighting vehicle.

[Douglas Greville]

Hanno

I think it is an English speaker mistake trying to translate "Lynx" into Dutch language and ending up with "Luchs" German language.

Correct terminology in Netherlands was M113 C&V as far as I know. Different sources seem to vary that around a bit.

Regards
Doug

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

The list seems to have some double entries.
Anyhow, the Dutch M113 C&R entry is incorrect, see my earlier posting.
The Luchs is a German 8x8 amphibious reconnaissance armoured fighting vehicle.

[Ed Storey]

"Correct terminology in Netherlands was M113 C&V as far as I know. Different sources seem to vary that around a bit."

Sources, what 'sources' would those be? Wikipedia?

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by Douglas Greville

XM501 - HAWK loader/transporter
XM501E1 - HAWK loader/transporter
XM501E2 - HAWK loader/transporter
XM501E3 - HAWK loader/transporter

I cannot see a link with the above mentioned Hawk vehicles to the M113 family except that they are both tracked.

[Douglas Greville]

Originally Posted by Ed Storey

"Correct terminology in Netherlands was M113 C&V as far as I know. Different sources seem to vary that around a bit."

Sources, what 'sources' would those be? Wikipedia?

You need to start getting out of the right side of the bed.

No.

Amersfoort.

Specifically "M113 C en V".

Regards
Doug

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Douglas Greville

Correct terminology in Netherlands was M113 C&V as far as I know. Different sources seem to vary that around a bit.

Doug,

Indeed, that's what I said in post #23.

According to the technical manual the full nomenclature was

• "Carrier, Commando en Verkenning M113A1 C&V. m/25 mm Boordwapen"
  which translates to
• "Carrier, Command and Reconnaissance M113A1 C&R. w/25 mm mounted weapon"

HTH,
Hanno

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Douglas Greville

Whilst we are on the topic of M113s, I thought this may interest everyone. I have copied it from another forum. I do not know how accurate the listing is, but it is a bit stunning in its size. Also, some of those vehicles may be "one offs".
It does not list how many countries have bought/used M113, but it is dozens and probably close to 100:

[snip]

YPR-765 - Dutch series based on the AIFV

Stunning number of variants indeed - the YPR-765 in use with the RNLA counted 21 variants alone!

For a written history - alas in Dutch - of the YPR-765, see http://www.boekje-pienter.nl/images/...ria-ypr765.pdf

HTH,
Hanno

[Mike Cecil]

M113A - Australian armoured personnel carrier variant
M113A [Milan] - Milan portee variant of the M113A
M113A [Recoilless Rifle] - Rcoilless rifle portee version of the M113A

These should, of course, be M113A1, and both the Milan and 106mm RCL 'portee' variants were designed to have the weapon fired from them, and not dismounted, so not actually a 'portee' in the strict sense of the word.

Other Aust 'one-offs' (or 'two-offs) include the M113A1 with dozer attachement.

Then there are the M113AS2 (four of), M113AS4 (the current vehicle) and other 'AS' (Australian) variants developed in more recent times within Australia, such as the ALV.

Interesting list nevertheless. Thanks Doug.

Mike

[45jim]

The Lynx used the M113 power pack. There were some differences with the ancillaries compared to the M113 but it was the same unit. As was standard practice when something in the back went boom, the driver would work with the second line wrench benders to change it out. We usually pulled the complete pack (whereupon the driver descended into the engine compartment with lots of rags to clean out years of filth and recover lost drivers tools from the last five drivers) and then it was out to assist the change over of the major parts, engine, transfer case or transmission. The drive train components came bare of ancillaries that would have to be swapped over to the new unit. Once all bolted together back in she went.

When the Lynx was retired and the M113 soldiered on, the power packs were removed and sent back into the system to keep the M113 fleet going. I believe that was the selling point of the M113 fleet....commonality.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by jdmcm

Robin I believe the Lynx you speak of from the Littlefield debacle ended up in Colorado and was cut apart to make a German tank replica

The conversion shop is PanzerFabrik, and I think they scratchbuilt the Luchs, and got the Lynx running separately.

[JRRDixon]

I came across this is one of my manuals. Says the Australians fitted 76mm Saladin turrets on a bunch. Didn't see it on the list.

[Douglas Greville]

Originally Posted by JRRDixon

I came across this is one of my manuals. Says the Australians fitted 76mm Saladin turrets on a bunch. Didn't see it on the list.

Jason

It is there, see M113A1 FSV (Fire Support Vehicle) x 15. That was replaced by MRV (Medium Reconnaissance Vehicle) with the Scorpion turret x 42.

Regards
Doug

[JRRDixon]

And so it was. My bad.
I do remember seeing a Couple personnel carriers in St Thomas at a little museum. Not sure if they lynx''s. Did not look sloped enough for m114's. Trying to load pictures but not having any luck. Does anyone know of the ones I am referring to?

[Douglas Greville]

Jason

Understandable that you did not align the vehicle types. The "FSV" nomenclature was closely followed by "MRV", which are essentially 2 very different names for the same class of vehicle doing the same job.

Usual military inability to stick with terminology. Somebody probably got a promotion due to his ability to think up a new designation.

It was worse with our 113s that had the Cadillac Cage turret. If 2 x .30s were fitted, they had one designation, if a .30 and a .50 were fitted, then a different designation. As it was a fairly quick exercise to swap out the guns, it all seemed rather pointless to me.

Regards
Doug

[Mike Cecil]

Doug is right, of course, the nomenclature can be a bit puzzling. With the introduction of the CG T50(Aust) turret in the late 1960s, there were two armament configurations decided upon: the APC with twin .30cals, and the LRV (Light Recce Veh) with the .50/.30 combination. Units designated as 'APC' units like 3/9SAMR were to be equipped with the APC variant, while recce units like XLH in Western Australia were to be equipped with the .50/.30 armed LRV. The distinction was soon dropped, in part due to operational experience by 3 Cav Regt then serving in South Vietnam. By the early/mid 1970s, both the APC and LRV were equipped with the .50/.30 combination. This is covered in my book 'The M113 and M113A1 in Aust Service 1964 to 1971' - I still have a few copies left if anyone wants one. PM me.

The introduction of the Scorpion turret version of the Fire Support Vehicle also saw the alignment of the nomenclature with the LRV nomenclature introduced in 1968, by designating the new vehicle the Medium Recce Veh - MRV. There was no 'HRV'.

There were 48 Scorpion turret MRVs built (not 42), all on new-build APC hulls purchased from FMC in 1972-1973. Their registration and hull numbers are not sequential, but are scattered through the registration numbers allocated to a larger order for APCs.

The earlier FSV was a combination of the Saladin turrets removed from the 15 Saladin armd cars purchased by Australia in the late 1950s. The first (prototype) was mounted onto a previously registered APC which was later given a new number, and the other 14 mounted on new-purchase APCs supplied by FMC from their San Jose plant. The registrations were 134700 to 134714 for the total of 15.

I have an official diagram somewhere that details the differences between T130 and T130E1 track. I'll post it when I find it! The AWM was fortunate to acquire a pallet load of the early T130 track to equip the APC on display in the SVN gallery.

Mike

[rob love]

An older thread but I found an anomaly for Ed. While preparing to paint the Lynx at the front gate here on the base (serial CR2-88, CFR 67-35897), I went to my online copy of CFP-318-9 (manual of camo and concealment) and here was the listing for the Camo pattern for the CR2, or as the official DND manual called it, the M113-1/2.

[Ed Storey]

Nice find Rob! I am familiar with that anomaly as I have the document in question in my collection, sadly the author of CFP 318-9 used a colloquialism rather than the correct name which was and still is: Carrier, Command and Reconnaissance Full Tracked Armoured, Lynx.

[rob love]

I am used to colloquialisms used in messages, referring to things like Iltis Jeep, or M151A2 Jeep, but it is not that often you see them in the actual publications.



As an aside, when I finish adding the markings etc to the lynx, I'll post some photos for reference. Way too hot today to be out at the gate.