M113 track

[rob love]

You are right Douglas. According to the manual the grousers were meant for when the ground would not provide adequate traction (I think they used the term boggy) and were not for use on hard surface. If they did have to be driven for short distance on hard surface, speed was limited to 10mph.

Our carriers had racks on the sides to hold these things. I can't say I ever saw them installed outside of a track course. It was usually too cold to be doing a lot of optional maintenance during the winter months.

[Douglas Greville]

Rob

Fancy some 40°C heat instead? ;-(

So, does anyone have a photo of a Diehl ice spike or even have one in
their possession, or are they a theoretical item that never actually existed
outside of Diehl prototypes?

As to the Diehl grousers, I have seen plenty of photos of them, especially on
the front of Leopards, but don't ever recall seeing a photo of any in actual use.

Regards
Doug

Originally Posted by rob love

You are right Douglas. According to the manual the grousers were meant for when the ground would not provide adequate traction (I think they used the term boggy) and were not for use on hard surface. If they did have to be driven for short distance on hard surface, speed was limited to 10mph.

Our carriers had racks on the sides to hold these things. I can't say I ever saw them installed outside of a track course. It was usually too cold to be doing a lot of optional maintenance during the winter months.

[rob love]

The ice spike is not mentioned in any of the literature I have seen for the diehl track in Canadian use.

I saw a decent presentation on the Diehl track on the net the other day. It shows some of their track used on Warsaw block equipment as well.
http://www.atlantic-bg.org/files/con...nd_Systems.pdf

[Douglas Greville]

Rob

Thanks, I am downloading it now. Surprising how little info there is about
Diehl track. Their website is pretty useless. May go some way to explaining
why they got into financial difficulty.

Regards
Doug

Originally Posted by rob love

The ice spike is not mentioned in any of the literature I have seen for the diehl track in Canadian use.

I saw a decent presentation on the Diehl track on the net the other day. It shows some of their track used on Warsaw block equipment as well.
http://www.atlantic-bg.org/files/con...nd_Systems.pdf

[45jim]

We used these regularly. Especially when we deployed to Chilcotin (BC) for winter ex, where without them the tracks just would just spin. They worked well in snow and icy conditions but with the limited weight of the vehicle and their fairly large surface area they would not punch through really thick ice and you'd be skating rather than sliding, but we're comfortable on skates in Canada!

They were used sporadically in Wainwright and Suffield it just depended on conditions that particular winter. The open plains of Alberta never got enough snow to make them absolutely necessary but we used them every time in BC. I can remember the SSM going up one side and down the other of a driver that forgot that "one" grouser when we drove on the highway to the railhead. Little "X's" all along the highway, a trail to follow.

[Douglas Greville]

Hello all,

I fluked upon a not so good pair of photos of the fabled Diehl 213 Ice Spike!

All being well, it should be attached to this post.

Does this ring any bells for anyone who used this track?

Regards
Doug

[Robin Craig]

Can anyone of you learned people ID this track please?

The rubber is missing I know

Thank you all