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hi fella's
i'm having an oil cooler made by an old chap local to me and i need to know the dimensions, i know the pipe is 1/2" copper but i need the height and width of the rectangle, if anyone else needs one knocking up then let me know and i'll get them made at the same time. he quoted £50 for a square section cooler using 3/8" pipe but i'd prefer to get something more original looking using the round cooling fins. any help would be appreciated eddy
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Rick. Speak with Ben he is having one made too he has used my original as a pattern.
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thanks rich but ben is away for a week and i'd like to get cracking on it so if anyone has the dimensions it would be appreciated.
cheers eddy
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hi fella's
i've got hold of richies well travelled cooler and will be using that as a pattern so nobody need rush out to their carrier and measure up for me
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aww and i just ripped my carrier apart to measuer the oil cooler for you ! ha ha ha - i had a message from Ben re the flexi oil pipes. not a prob for you to copy mine that Ben has, could i ask you to get me a couple made at the same time. if you need the dosh up front just say.
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sure, no worries mate
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Hi, may I ask anyone for outside diameter of oil cooler (incl. cooling fins) and also for the width and height of the whole cooler (rectangle)?
I assume from the above that inner diameter of pipe is 1/2. Many thanks for help in advance!
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Early carriers had two pipes running through the cooler, later carriers had one single pipe, unsure of diameter though.
I recently learned this !
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The threaded ends are 1/2" BSP parallel thread The pipes use Rotherham fittings (I think that's what they're called)
Some were made with the wire loops and later with the discs. The 2 runs of copper pipe are half inch o.d and they sweat into a casting with the fittings (screwed??) into the bottom that the pipes connect to. The outer fitting sits lower than the inner. I will post some photos later.
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I can make them up and some pipe work too. I might have a spare set on one of my carriers to copy.
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petr i made my oil cooler using an old finned oil cooler from a saracen which i took apart and reassembled using 22mm plumbing fittings to create the 90 angles and reducers at the pipe connection end. the whole thing only took a couple of hours and cost £4
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Thanks all! Yes Rick, that sounds cool! I have source of finned pipes I can make cooler from, just need to know proper outer diameter.
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Is it true that the oil cooler constructed with the folded over wire are true English carrier manufacture and the coolers using the discs are the Canadian style?
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That's my understanding Andrew, yes.
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For those that may be interested ;Pictures show the 3 different types of oil coolers used in Carriers. First is the English, next the Canadian MK1*, then the LP manufactured ones for Australia and New Zealand. The NZ LP Carrier ones were made about 15 mins down the road from where I live. The Canadian one has twin tubes junctioning into a single outlet / Inlet, the LP were two separate tubes and the English one was a single tube with the wire loops.Cheers Andrew.
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Very interesting Andrew, thanks for pics!
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