Engine manufacturer for M151A2

[maple_leaf_eh]

Here's one on identification

https://www.foleyengines.com/tech-ti...-pZviTcXMGInik

and this is the illustrated parts manual.

https://www.wincogen.com/wp-content/...chFwllw3g8QH2A

One thing that interests me (as a matter of pure engineering interoperability) is this engine has both gasoline and natural gas variants. Although I don't plan to lug around a big blue tank for fuel especially in cold Canada, it is intriguing nonetheless.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

One thing that interests me (as a matter of pure engineering interoperability) is this engine has both gasoline and natural gas variants. Although I don't plan to lug around a big blue tank for fuel especially in cold Canada, it is intriguing nonetheless.

Other than changes to the carburation, the engine is the same. Any petrol engine can run on a mixture of air and natural gas, LPG (or petrol). It's all about hydrocarbons...

H.

[charlie fitton]

Thanks Terry

I don't have a 151, but have the option to buy an engine package....don't even know why I want it, but...

[chris vickery]

Charlie, don’t overpay. M151 engines are a dime a dozen, especially in the US

[rob love]

I took apart 30 M151A2s back in 87. I would sell off complete running powerpacks for $125. Otherwise, I would sell the alternator and the distributor components and make just as much. I still see the odd powerpack show up from somebodies shed for $500.

Re alternate fuel sources, propane is very hard on valves and seats....some engines more than others. I got to experience a lot of that first hand when the military tried to run propane vehicles back in the 80s. It was definitely not the right fuel for this climate, and not the right fuel for multiple users.

[Lynn Eades]

Petrol engines can be duel fueled but like anything, an engine functions better when designed and built for a specific fuel. I remember seeing a new Ford crate engine (D series Ford- English commercial) in the parts department of the local Ford dealership. It was a dedicated gas engine. Likely the valves, guides, maybe the head? and pistons were different. Essentially a diesel engine re speced for LPG.
At one stage here in N.Z. possibly 15 percent of cars on the road had been converted to duel fuel, either CNG or LPG with petrol. It was a whole new industry, which died as quickly as it started.

On the Caterpillar thing. Have they bought Perkins?
When I was working in Kalgoorlie (Australia) We had small diesels that were black and labeled "Perkins" and the yellow ones were labelled "Caterpillar" they were all the same and I was told Cat had bought Perkins?

[Paul Singleton]

When I was working we had sidewalk ploughs with Perkins and Caterpillar diesels. The engines were the same except for some sensors and programming. In 2015 when I was still working Caterpillar wouldn’t sell parts for the Perkins and vice-versa. The dealers were unable to look up the engine model and serial numbers unless they were the licensed dealer for the make. We had the same trouble with Mercedes industrial engines. The on-road dealer couldn’t even read the diagnostic engine codes.

Paul

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by Paul Singleton

When I was working we had sidewalk ploughs with Perkins and Caterpillar diesels. The engines were the same except for some sensors and programming. In 2015 when I was still working Caterpillar wouldn’t sell parts for the Perkins and vice-versa. The dealers were unable to look up the engine model and serial numbers unless they were the licensed dealer for the make. We had the same trouble with Mercedes industrial engines. The on-road dealer couldn’t even read the diagnostic engine codes.

Paul

Slightly reorienting the conversation, there is a movement in the US for farm equipment buyers to be able to access the coding that runs their pricey tractors, loaders and combines. The big manufacturers are resisting because they will lose the economic advantage of tying a buyer, who is really not much better than a renter, to their servicing contracts. It sucks, but that is how sophisticated some equipment has become and how competitive is the industry. Hmmm? Does anyone remember the old Belarus and Progress tractors on the Prairies? Simple and rugged beyond belief.