CFR Request Thread

[Mark C]

What does CFR and VMO mean?

Thank you!

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by Mark C

What does CFR and VMO mean?

Thank you!

Canadian Forces Registration ie licence plate #.

Vehicle Movement Order ie change of ownership between units.

[Jacques Rioux]

Like every other Iltis I have a data plate that has my CFR. 88113. But I know that there is another location on the frame that has a CFR, just behind the front passenger wheel of the frame. I went in search of this CFR 87355 and found it. I was surprised to see that this CFR is different than what I have on my data plate.
I am assuming that the frame was created in 1987 and the Ilitis it self was assembled in 1988. Hence the difference
But just in case I'm wrong does anybody have the official reason for two different CFR's on 1 Iltis
Thanks
On a side note if anybody have any information on these two CFR's please let me know

[rob love]

The change could have been during service or after service. For instance, when I was in Cypress in 1989, the Iltis fleet there was replaced by Pajero, as the Iltis were already suffering from the rough roads. The Iltis that were in theater were sent to Shilo, where they were mixed and matched to make serviceable Iltis to return to service.

I personally replaced an Iltis body (due to accident damage) but in that case, it was just a matter of ordering a brand new body in the crate from the supply system.

Collectors have also done similar repairs post service. Unfortunately, with the loss of the detailed EDR viewer a few years back, it may be very difficult to get the full work order history on your vehicle(s).


The 87 in the frame serial number does not denote 1987. There would be two digits proceeding the 5 digits that would denote yer of acceptance to DND. Iltis were produced for Canada in 1984, 5 and 6.

[Ed Storey]

Iltis 87355 was a ECC 121501 Basic manufactured in 1985 and sold out of Valcartier in Aug 2005; while Iltis 88113 was a ECC 121519 Tailgate manufactured in 1986 and also sold out of Valcartier in Aug 2005. Which version of Iltis do you have? Perhaps the bodies were swapped by the vendor?

[Jacques Rioux]

Standard Iltis, no tailgate, Ambulance, etc...
I bought it from an individual that originally bought it from PreFair here in Quebec. I talked to the gentleman that was responsible for the Iltis’s at PreFair and he mentioned that they did not do any swamps.

Originally Posted by Ed Storey

Iltis 87355 was a ECC 121501 Basic manufactured in 1985 and sold out of Valcartier in Aug 2005; while Iltis 88113 was a ECC 121519 Tailgate manufactured in 1986 and also sold out of Valcartier in Aug 2005. Which version of Iltis do you have? Perhaps the bodies were swapped by the vendor?

[Ed Storey]

So if I am reading this thread correctly you have a CFR 88113 ECC 121519 Iltis Tailgate data plate affixed to a Iltis ECC 121501 standard body which is mounted on a CFR 87355 standard Iltis frame. Someone created a FrankenIltis!