Ram Kangaroo interior info wanted

[Hanno Spoelstra]

I urgently need (I'll explain later) as much as possible information re. the interior of the Ram Kangaroo. Presently I cannot access my printed references; the only information I have online can be found here - see pics below.

Can anyone add anything to this, please?

Thanks!
Hanno

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Just stowage as far as I can see, Hanno... while the crew's gear and miscellaneous crap will have been stashed outside the crew compartment, all task-related gear will have been inside, including a good stock of .50/.30 cal ammunition for the inevitable turret-ring Browning. This will probably have found an ad-hoc roost on the right sponson.

I'll see what else I have at home, but from your tone I suspect it may be too late by then; perhaps Bill can add something more substantive in the interim.

G.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball
I'll see what else I have at home, but from your tone I suspect it may be too late by then; perhaps Bill can add something more substantive in the interim.

Thanks Geoff. This Saturday Alex van de Wetering is going to see if he and another modeller have enough model kit parts and information between them to see if he can finish a 1:35 scale model in record time. So yes, the request is urgent, but still valid after this weekend.

H.

[Bill Miller]

Sorry, I don't have much, if anything to add

Every picture you have access to is virtually all the reference material we have. I agree with Geoff on the additional stowage. Some pioneer tools also stowed on the inside, shovels, crowbars etc. The LAD diaries mention moving the #19 set depending on the particular Ram model (models with the Aux. MG turret) but there is not much detail as to exact position. I'll see what I can dig up from the diaries tonight.

Bill.

[Alex van de Wetering]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the replies so far. This saterday I picked up the parts to build the Kangaroo scale model. I took some measurements and several reference pictures of the Mill Kangaroo, yesterday. I won't bother you with more model related info, but I also received some new (?) interior drawings from Bert Lindeboom who also provided most of the parts for the model and I thought it was worth displaying them here.

regards,

Alex

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Alex van de Wetering
This saterday I picked up the parts to build the Kangaroo scale model.

Alex certainly "does not let grow grass over it", as we say in Dutch!

Click here to view pictures of the work in progress:


Well done, Alex!

H.

[Alex van de Wetering]

Hanno,

Thanks for the feathers up my........ Well, let's just say "another Dutch saying".

I have fitted the bogies in the meantime and the rear hull plate and Idlers are next.

Some things have got me puzzeled, though. Can anyone tell me more about the layout of the rear (lower) hull plate (behind the armor plates)? What is the right position for the air-filters and the exhausts (which way do they go)??? I have the Ram II parts list, but there doesn't seem to be a good drawing of the layout.

Any good pictures or references?

regards,

Alex

[wim sikkelbein]

Hi Alex,

I don't know if this helps, it's from the instructions for the 1/35th formations ram 2 op conversion kit

Wim

[Alex van de Wetering]

Wim,

Thanks for posting the instructions. They are indeed very helpfull and I have allready used them for the model.

The layout is also similar to the Mill Kangaroo and the RAM in the Amersfoort Cavalry museum. A thing that got me puzzeled though, is that some Rams seem to have a different layout, for instance this one:



Taken from the Kangaroo photo thread

Alex

[wim sikkelbein]

Alex if i'm not mistaken then this is the reason:

CT40028
Continental R975/C1 engine replaces Wright R975/EC2, mufflers moved to top of engine from exterior, external square air cleaners mounted on rear hull plate replace internal box type. 2-piece rear engine grill replaced by one-piece grill

http://www.ramtank.ca/rammodifications.htm

Wim

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by wim sikkelbein
Continental R975/C1 engine replaces Wright R975/EC2, mufflers moved to top of engine from exterior, external square air cleaners mounted on rear hull plate replace internal box type. 2-piece rear engine grill replaced by one-piece grill

Alex, Wim is right - the pic you posted shows the early exhaust layout associated with the R975 EC2 engine.

The model you are building has the same technical features as the M4 and M4A1 Sherman with the common R975 C1 engine.

H.

[Alex van de Wetering]

Guys,

Thanks for straightening that out.

The model is still on schedule, Hanno.

regards,

Alex

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
Click here to view pictures of the work in progress:

Status as of 12 Nov.:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~abarthot/RAM/Preshade-1.jpg

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Status as of 14 Dec.

I don't have any other words for it than: astounding!

http://www.xs4all.nl/~abarthot/RAM/Bijna-1.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~abarthot/RAM/Wash-chip.jpg

See RAM "Kangaroo"....Update.........Donderdag 14DEC for many work-in-progress pictures and Canadian RAM "Kangaroo" , 1CACR....nearly finished for more pics.

H.

[Phil Waterman]

Looking at the level of detail involved I wonder what the creator of these models does for a living. Is this level of minute detail and manual dexterity part of there work as well it is truly amazing.

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Yes, outstanding.

[Bill Miller]

Alex, that is amazing! The amount of surface detail to the hull casting and paint, both exterior and interior blows me away. This is a fantastic model

Excellent workmanship.

Bill.

[Alex van de Wetering]

Guys,

Thanks for the nice replies!

I hope to get some pictures of the Kangaroo model into the gallery of a modeling website I frequently visit and I will notify you when this succeeds. Intention is to write an article about the project for a modeling magazine, too.

Phil, I am an Industrial Design Engineer. I design all sorts of products ranging from wheelchairs, to firefighting equipment, to Automotive products etc. I use my modeling skills frequently to build prototypes and/or build presentation models, but most of the time I am busy with CAD programs, sketching and sourcing materials and parts.

I wish to thank Hanno Spoelstra and Bill Miller especially, for their help with this project.


Alex

[Marco C.]

Here is a Ram Kangaroo from Mill ther Netherlands