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Old 05-12-20, 12:20
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Attached you will find some pictures of the HUW that can often be seen on shows in the Northwest of Holland. I understand the truck was once restored by the father of the current owner, before he passed away. You will see that rust has since claimed a piece of the truck.
Here is a picture of the same HUW "CZ 4210417" set up as a radio post at Longues sur Mer, Normandy, June 2004. It is owned by Ron Bechtholt.

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Old 06-12-20, 18:26
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hello
Twenty years ago I had a cmp c8 , I sold it , and he make a travell around europe by different owners, I think It is in england now.

I never new exacltly for what use it was , here is a picture of the last part I have from the rear compartiment, it was on the mudguard.

I hope It will help the tread, maybe has someone interress on this part also to restaur a c8.

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Old 07-12-20, 01:30
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Who owns this HUW?
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Old 07-12-20, 09:27
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Who owns this HUW?
Al Tooes in the UK restored it - see C8A HUW restoration in England for his contact details. He may remember who he sold it to.
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Old 14-01-25, 15:07
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Couple of film stills from a British Pathe film of Canadians landing in Messina.

Some nice and not often seen views looking down onto the HUW.
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Old 16-01-25, 21:06
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Default What are you pointing out????

Green arrow is the ashtray......

one red arrow is the antenneeeeee

What are the other arrows pointing to???

...and a load of waterproof sleeping bags....
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Old 16-01-25, 22:57
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Forgot the description of the arrows.

Red arrows are antennas. The one on the roof has an antenna guard as well. Blue arrow is the rear hatch for the Chorehorse compartment. Green arrow is the interior side of that compartment painted white. In the other pictures can just make out some writing on the compartment.
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Old 19-01-25, 00:30
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....the roof antenna guard..... as there is a identical one on the right handside.... no doubt "deflectors" of some kind for low objects.......... never seen or noticed them before........ not of much use with the load of sleeping bags......
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Old 19-01-25, 05:22
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Interesting overhead shots of the B-Set aerial guard, Jordan.

You can see the size of the rectangular base plate and the outboard angular strap. The inboard strap has some of the load resting up against it.

I wonder when the designers moved away from that style of guard setup to the ring style guard that clamped to the steel B-Set aerial mount?



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Old 19-01-25, 10:02
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The loop style antenna guards resemble those used on the house style 2K1 body on 15 cwt chassis.
I don't know enough about the wireless installation on the HUW to be sure about how many antennas were on the roof but I agree with Bob that it looks like there is a similar hoop on the right side of the roof with personal kit stuffed between the pair of loops (as shown in other photos) that would be blocking the antenna location. Is it possible that not all installations used antennas on both left and right sides of the vehicle?
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Old 19-01-25, 20:19
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Hi Grant.

The 'standard' factory build for these vehicles was indeed a pair of these aerial roof mounts that were essentially flat with the two bent, flat, steel strap guards on either side of it. Early wireless equipment was basically HF only, using some form of sectional whip when installed in a vehicle. Although the CMPs were built to British standards with right hand drive, the designers were aware these vehicles would not always be driving on roads that conformed to British standards. This presented a problem for where the long whip aerials should be mounted on the vehicle roof. Roads often have trees, poles with wires, and lamps located along the shoulders creating a lot of overhead hazards for long aerials if they are close to the shoulder. Consider this the 'near side' of the vehicle as it is nearest the road shoulder. The far side of the vehicle, then becomes the side closest to the centre of the road and the side with typically fewer overhead hazards for the HF wireless whip aerial. Since from the designers perspective, they had no real idea in what locations the wireless vehicles would be operating, to solve their problem of where to place the aerial mounting plates, they installed two: one each side and left it up to the operators in the field where to put the aerial.

When the 19-Set was introduced with a VHF unit added to the mix, the dual mounts on the vehicle still worked as the one not occupied by the HF whip was adopted for the short VHF aerial which was at little risk on the near side of a vehicle as often as not.

Some HF sets with more output power than the 19-Set often had a special aerial base that did not lend itself well to the standardized roof mounts supplied with wireless vehicles so one sees the additional mounting assembles added to the sides of the vehicle roof to accommodate those wireless sets. A wireless vehicle might also be used as a Relay station between two separate radio nets: one using 19-Sets and the other net using other equipment (say a 52-Set), so the vehicle carried two different wireless sets with need for relevant aerial mountings.

Sorry for the natter.

By the way, Hannos post on this thread, #30, shows both factory aerial mounts on the roof, from a front left quarter view.


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Old 21-01-25, 19:45
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There was also the ability to mount the antenna mast on the side of the truck for the long horizontal aerial. Although this particular truck does not have one mounted.
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