Beute Morris-Commercial trucks

Hanno Spoelstra · #1 29-11-04, 22:16

Another captured Morris-Commercial CS8 15-cwt, this time pretty much in as-built configuration, though.

Is that an AA machine-gun trainer in the back of the GS cargo body?

Hanno Spoelstra · #2 21-02-05, 22:41

Again a picture being auctioned on eBay (thanks to Kuno for pointing it out to me): Erbeutete Britische Ford LKW Tarnplanen Dünkirchen (Item number: 6155147780). I can make out Ford, Beford and Morris-Commercial trucks.

H.

David_Hayward (RIP) · #3 21-02-05, 22:56

The Bedford appears to my poor eyes to be one of the batch L 199580 to 200304, to Contract V 3603, 'Lorry 3 ton 4 x 2'.

Richard Farrant · #4 21-02-05, 23:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
I can make out Ford, Beford and Morris-Commercial trucks.

And the open bonnet in the foreground looks like a Humber Snipe.

Richard

Hanno Spoelstra · #5 06-03-05, 08:21

Captured Morris-Commerical 15-cwt truck, reportedly at Heraklion, Crete, 1941. Note W.D. licence plate in Arabic.

Source: http://www.fronta.cz/index.php?photo=58, http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/germans/alp

Kuno · #6 07-03-05, 09:02

@ Hanno

I would not wonder about an arabic number-plate on a british truck in CRETA. Since the british forces have been brought there from EGYPT (via GREECE)...

#7 19-03-05, 04:55

Ostfront June 1941.

R.

Hanno Spoelstra · #8 25-03-05, 12:23

Morris-Commericial Quad as captured (source: eBay Item 6164064982).
See the missing-lynx forum for some background info.

H.

Bill Murray · #9 01-08-06, 23:05

Can anyone shed any light on this vehicle?
I have not seen such a Morris with a crane before and do not know if it is of German or British origin.
Bill

Hanno Spoelstra · #10 01-08-06, 23:09

Quote:

Originally posted by Bill Murray
I have not seen such a Morris with a crane before and do not know if it is of German or British origin.

Excellent pic, Bill!

As far as I can tell, this is not a configuration of British origin - must have been German.

H.

Bill Murray · #11 01-08-06, 23:21

Hi Hanno:
This may be one of those never solved mysterys.
I have perhaps a dozen photos of German trucks with a specific type of crane to remove aircraft engines but none look like this one.
The photo came from eBay.de and I think it was on the Russian front so it could have been cobbled up from almost anything available. I agree, though, it is a nice and rare shot.
Bill

oztankboy · #12 02-08-06, 10:41

I would say it would probly be a captured/salvaged truck from the BEF and modified to serve its new owners.

Phil...

Hanno Spoelstra · #13 21-12-06, 11:54

Quote:

Originally posted by Richard Farrant
And the open bonnet in the foreground looks like a Humber Snipe.

Here's another captured Humber Snipe 8-cwt.

Source: LKW Opel Blitz Ford Kübelwagen Krupp Stöver 6 Fotos Item number: 300059965285

Hanno Spoelstra · #14 21-12-06, 12:05

Related threads:

Under New Management

Axis History Forum Index » Beute and Umabuawagens

H.

Hanno Spoelstra · #15 30-12-06, 18:00

One more for good measure, Bedford MW Z378927 freshly captured; the Germans only hastily applied "WH" for Wehrmacht Heer (Defense Forces, Army).

For more captured Bedfords see my G503 album.

H.

Rolf S. Ask · #16 30-12-06, 21:56

Hanno

I think your last posting is a MCC.
Look at the toolbox in front of the rear wheel. That is a MCC feature. The Bedford's did show their petroltank.
Agree anyone?

Chers
Rolf

Hanno Spoelstra · #17 31-12-06, 11:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Rolf S. Ask
I think your last posting is a MCC.

Rolf,

I agree, it must be a Morris-Commercial CS8. The pic ended up in the right thread anyway!

H.

Mike Kelly · #18 31-12-06, 11:35

Yes Rolf ,

Looks like a MCC CS8 to me .

The CS8 rear axle hubs are visible . As seen in the earlier MW pic Hanno posted - the MW type rear hubs are more skinny and also protrude more .

Mike

Larry Hayward · #19 31-12-06, 11:59

Here is a photo of a C8 in destroyed in Normandy while in German Army service. It looks to be a C8 GS with a non standard rear body?

The registration on the front is WH 582756

And another shot of the same

Richard Farrant · #20 31-12-06, 12:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Larry Hayward
Here is a photo of a C8 in destroyed in Normandy while in German Army service. It looks to be a C8 GS with a non standard rear body?

Larry,

Going by the fact this is in Normandy, I do not think that was a GS version of a C8, the C8GS did not come into service until late 1944. The points to look at here are the flat section front wings and the outer top of windscreen frames slightly angled in. It was a C8 Field Artillery tractor. possibly captured in Dunkirk or thereabouts.

Richard

Larry Hayward · #21 31-12-06, 23:52

I did wonder whether it was a FAT but it has been changed so much, which gives credit to the resourcefulness of the Germans!

alleramilitaria · #22 02-01-07, 02:47

yup its a FAT.

Hanno Spoelstra · #23 22-06-07, 11:25

Expired Ebay auction: Dia Beute LKW Bedford Hafenkommandant Kastron Lemnos Item number: 120131728804

Showing Morris-Commercial CS8 Z389950 picked up from the battlefield and put to use as a harbour command's hack at Kastron, Isle of Lemnos, Greece (1941).

dodgenut · #24 22-06-07, 23:17

As this is a Morris thread, I thought you'd like to see this pic that I found and added to my site the other day ...

Rick

Hendrik van Oorspronk · #25 07-07-07, 23:51

Hello,

It looks like, after Dunkirk the Germans had more Morris Commercials in service than the Britisch (is that why they lost the war).

Green Greetings Hendrik

Hanno Spoelstra · #26 07-03-10, 22:47

Another Beute Morris CS8 from Axis History Forum.

H.

Mike Kelly · #27 12-03-10, 05:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hendrik van Oorspronk

Hello,

It looks like, after Dunkirk the Germans had more Morris Commercials in service than the Britisch (is that why they lost the war).

Green Greetings Hendrik

Mike Kelly · #28 12-03-10, 05:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hendrik van Oorspronk

Hello,

It looks like, after Dunkirk the Germans had more Morris Commercials in service than the Britisch (is that why they lost the war).

Green Greetings Hendrik

I read somewhere that the jerries had taken over a plant in Antwerp, this is where where they rebuilt the many captured Morris' .

David_Hayward (RIP) · #29 12-03-10, 08:28

You may have been recalling rhe late Bart Vanderveen in WHEELS & TRACKS mentioning about Ford and General Motors Continental in the docks at Antwerp/Antwerpen/Anvers. I have the figures somewhere, but he mentions extensive rebuilding facilities established for Austin, Morris and Bedford engines, etc. from memory.

Lynn Eades · #30 12-03-10, 10:25

I guess I'm in the wrong thread here, but it accurs to me that I have not seen any 6 wheel morris comicals, on the forum. Are they a bit rare?