C8A HUM census numbers?

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Marty,

Following Bram Goudkuil's suggestion I searched on the RLC Archive (https://www.rlcarchive.org) and got a subscription to do some digging.

One contract I found was (corrected below is it was transcribed incorrectly in the RLCA database):

• M 6230395 to M 6230594 SM6407 Chevrolet Car 4x4 Hvy., Utility

SM.6407 Chevrolet C8A.jpg

According to David Hayward SM6407 was an order for the C8A with 1C11 staff car body, so this number range would not really fit your C8A body style.

Originally Posted by David_Hayward (RIP)

I wanted to stimulate a discussion about the very end of CMP production. The last known [to me] CMP was 1C11 STAFF CAR 4844521386 ENGINE # FR4,057,573 AUGUST 31 1945 to British order SM 6407.

HTH,
Hanno

[M.Morren]

Hi Hanno,

Is M here the prefix as in CM? What does the M mean?
Also, I have to do some research on how the WD numbers work. I've not yet seen a number that started with 62.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by M.Morren

Hi Hanno,

Is M here the prefix as in CM? What does the M mean?
Also, I have to do some research on how the WD numbers work. I've not yet seen a number that started with 62.

Hi Marty,

Read for example https://www.canadiansoldiers.com/veh...lemarkings.htm > War Department/Census Numbers > Overseas

"M" stood for Car (staff car, jeep, etc.). As SM6407 was a British contract, they would not add the "C" in front as the Canadian Army did. Not a suitable census number range, as I said, we'll have to keep looking!

Hanno

[M.Morren]

Thanks for the info!

[Hanno Spoelstra]

PS: also do some searching for threads with "census" in the title.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

This table of census numbers allocated to the Canadian Army Overseas narrows down your search:

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Source: Clive Law’s “Drive to Victory”

[M.Morren]

So, guessing mine should have a somewhat similar number as the ZL in the first picture of this thread, it would be somewhere in the 4208201 - 4214200 range. Ths indeed does narrow it down!

[Hanno Spoelstra]

You may also want to contact the author of this book? Rob Clarke is a member of this forum.

https://servicepub.com/product/the-h...nadian-service

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[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

This table of census numbers allocated to the Canadian Army Overseas narrows down your search:

Source: Clive Law’s “Drive to Victory”

The list can also be found on a cached copy of Clive Law's website:

https://web.archive.org/web/20171204...allocation.htm

HTH,
Hanno

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Couple of pictures of a (new to me) C8A HUM in the Piana Delle Orme Museum in Italy.

Courtesy of Pierre-Olivier Buan.

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[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

I don't think the contract had anything to do with the C. I think it had more to do with on whose charge it was.

In Italy sometimes the C was omitted on Canadian vehicles to confuse Germans into thinking they might be British.