Blitz Semi Trailer

Euan McDonald · #1 09-09-09, 13:06

Pics of Johns north south truck with folding boat trailer.

cliff · #2 09-09-09, 23:14

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Originally Posted by Euan McDonald

Pics of Johns north south truck with folding boat trailer.

Boy I could have done with that photo of the trailer turn table when making my model of the Ford Semi on the North/South Military Highway.

Brett Nicholls · #3 10-09-09, 01:09

Hi Euan,
Thanks for the great pictures

. John's trailer looks very close (in construction) to the one recovered - I wish it was only in as good a condtion as john's. I'll send a PM. Thanks.
Regards,
Brett Nicholls.

Lionelgee · #4 10-09-09, 13:02

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Originally Posted by cliff

Boy I could have done with that photo of the trailer turn table when making my model of the Ford Semi on the North/South Military Highway.

G'day Cliff, Thanks for the information - one of those F- word trucks. This would be a jail-bar type and did it come with a V8?

Also CMP trucks are cab over variety built especially for the military whereas my truck is a civilian pattern with the engine out the front. What sort of percentage would there have been in the Australian Armed Forces of CMP cab overs compared to long nose civilian types like my truck?

Kind Regards
Lionel

Keith Webb · #5 10-09-09, 13:19

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Originally Posted by Lionelgee

G'day Cliff, Thanks for the information - one of those F- word trucks. This would be a jail-bar type and did it come with a V8?

Also CMP trucks are cab over variety built especially for the military whereas my truck is a civilian pattern with the engine out the front. What sort of percentage would there have been in the Australian Armed Forces of CMP cab overs compared to long nose civilian types like my truck?

Kind Regards
Lionel

That's the '41 model. The Jailbar was '42 and on. A much nicer design in my opinion. And it did come with a V8. As a percentage I would think the normal control outnumber CMPs in Australian use. These were known as MCP, or modified conventional pattern vehicles.

Lionelgee · #6 10-09-09, 14:00

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Originally Posted by Keith Webb

That's the '41 model. The Jailbar was '42 and on. A much nicer design in my opinion. And it did come with a V8. As a percentage I would think the normal control outnumber CMPs in Australian use. These were known as MCP, or modified conventional pattern vehicles.

G'day Keith,

Thanks for the information...MCP aye. Did you think the '41 or the '42 was the nicer truck? So what sort of modifications apart from what Cliff mentioned earlier in this thread would be carried out on the MCPs? My '40 has the bog standard mudguards and has not been cut out for desert service.

Kind Regards
Lionel

Keith Webb · #7 10-09-09, 14:11

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Originally Posted by Lionelgee

G'day Keith,

Thanks for the information...MCP aye. Did you think the '41 or the '42 was the nicer truck? So what sort of modifications apart from what Cliff mentioned earlier in this thread would be carried out on the MCPs? My '40 has the bog standard mudguards and has not been cut out for desert service.

Kind Regards
Lionel

Sorry Lionel, that was ambiguous wasn't it. I prefer the '41 version.

Military things varied but typically in the hard top version the roof hatch and opening windscreens, rifle clips, provision for water bag holder on the passenger door on some, different lighting - the Aussie '42 used CMP side lights. Often they were fitted with single 18" wheels too.
Then there were the 4X4 and 6X6 Marmon-Herrington conversions.
I'm sure Tony Smith has more info.

cliff · #8 10-09-09, 23:24

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Originally Posted by Lionelgee

This would be a jail-bar type and did it come with a V8?

The jailbar Ford was 1942 on but unlike Keith I prefer the pre-Jailbar Fords. While Ford did have a 6 cylinder motor the flathead/sidevalve V8 predominated and I can only think of a few Ford models I have seen with the 6 cylinder fitted and they were low profile military models, not MCP vehicles but I believe a lot of MCP Fords with the 6 cylinder motor were supplied to Russia as Lend Lease.

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Also CMP trucks are cab over variety built especially for the military whereas my truck is a civilian pattern with the engine out the front. What sort of percentage would there have been in the Australian Armed Forces of CMP cab overs compared to long nose civilian types like my truck?

Again as Keith said Modified Civilian Pattern (MCP) vehicles of all makes including your Chev would have been more numerous then the CMP's.

Keith Webb · #9 10-09-09, 23:37

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Originally Posted by cliff

The jailbar Ford was 1942 on but unlike Keith I prefer the pre-Jailbar Fords.

Yes, that's what I've been trying to say... I like the '41 pre-jailbar ones!

Lionelgee · #10 12-09-09, 04:30

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Originally Posted by Keith Webb

Yes, that's what I've been trying to say... I like the '41 pre-jailbar ones!

G'day Keith,

Would you or Cliff have any photos of the front view of the 1940 nice looking Ford? I have to agree with you that the Jailbar looked a bit off. The styling of the pre-jailbar from the view shown with the trailer looks pretty decent .... for a Ford. that is... tee hee

Kind Regards
Lionel

Lionelgee · #11 10-09-09, 05:04

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Originally Posted by Euan McDonald

Pics of Johns north south truck with folding boat trailer.

G'day Euan,

Just wonder what breed of truck is in the photo with the trailer hitched to it?

Kind Regards
Lionel

cliff · #12 10-09-09, 07:09

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Originally Posted by Lionelgee

G'day Euan,

Just wonder what breed of truck is in the photo with the trailer hitched to it?

Kind Regards
Lionel

1941 Ford Lionel. This is a good example of a cowl with windscreen import with local body fitted. Assembled (built) by Ford here in Aussie with all the mods required so they did not fall to pieces driving on the North/South Military Highway (now Stuart Highway) In the early days a brand new conventional looking truck could leave Alice Springs and arrive at Darwin missing doors, mudguards and bonnets as the road was so rough the bodies flexed enough for the steel to stress fracture and in the end fall off or get pulled off by the drivers.

Brett Nicholls · #13 10-09-09, 07:42

Hi Cliff,
Do you happen to have any pictures of this type of trailer? I have got three from the AWM but would like some for more detail to aid correct restoration. Thanks

.
Regards,
Brett Nicholls.

Bob McNeill · #14 10-09-09, 11:31

I might be wrong but didn,t Ian S bring one behind his Ford tractor to Canberra some years ago.

Keith Webb · #15 10-09-09, 11:58

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Originally Posted by Bob McNeill

I might be wrong but didn,t Ian S bring one behind his Ford tractor to Canberra some years ago.

He even took it to Corowa one year a lonnnng time ago. And he still has it in Temora.